Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] End PEAR Project Endorsement

Hey Rowan,

On 08.09.26 06:17, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
>
> That's great that someone finally got in touch. Does he have access to 
> provide a database dump, so we can fill in the missing bug data?
>

That was brought up. Unfortunately, the user accounts are gone. Hence, 
the bug data cannot be provided.

>> This is great, because A) everyone involved agrees on the goal and B) 
>> this makes the vote a formality.
>
> Unless you know something I don't, Chuck's agreement is just one vote, 
> not any kind of final authority. He is listed at 
> https://pear.php.net/group/ as one of eight members of "the PEAR 
> Group", so in theory the other seven could decide they want to 
> continue the project. In fact, the Group was supposed to be re-elected 
> annually, so even their collective authority is shaky if anyone really 
> wanted to replace them.


Chuck is the one who had the authority to archive the repos in the PEAR 
GitHub organisation.

Also, allow me to highlight the "Non-goals" section of the RFC:

 > The goal is not to take over the governance of the independent PEAR 
package ecosystem. *If an independent PEAR team wants to continue PEAR 
as an active project, they remain free to do so under domains they control.*

>
> In practice, he's the only person involved who anyone has managed to 
> track down, and even that took several months, so I think we're safe 
> to say nobody's that interested. 

That too, yes.

>
> In other news, I noticed the mirror you created didn't yet have much 
> styling, so I've put together a quick PR copying in the colours and 
> basic styles from the existing site, plus an idea I had for a "locked 
> PEAR" logo: https://github.com/NickSdot/pear/pull/1

Thanks, Rowan! I am fine with that. One thing I'd add: I think having 
the "locked PEAR" is nice. Not sure about the favicon change. It's will 
be a The PHP Group hosted archive, not the successor of the PEAR 
project. Keeping the PHP favicon feels more sound to me, personally. But 
I happily leave that decision to you and others (infra team?).

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Cheers
Nick