Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] PDO 2: Request for Comments

On Jan 25, 2008, at 6:17 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:

> The PDO ODBC/IBM drivers did require CLA's and it has already been a  
> major annoyance back then and the concerns form the community were  
> flat out ignored by Wez.

The ACL was put in place after discussing the issue with the PHP group.

Note that there were no community concerns (the opinion was "don't  
care") raised about doing that at the time, it was only after it  
became apparent that the ACL on pdo_odbc prevented some minor  
maintenance work that objections were raised (some more tactfully put  
than others), and the ACL on that portion was eventually removed.

> And I think the only reason why we ended up with this CLA'ed off  
> section in PECL was that back then people were too in shock to react  
> to the unilateral steps that Wez took.

I discussed that issue with the PHP group, it was not unilateral.

> from the very resilient way that Andi/Wez defend the CLA approach  
> without giving me the vibe they ever gave intensifying the non CLA  
> based interaction with already have with Oracle/IBM while bringing  
> in Microsoft a good look.

We have considered the question of not having the CLA, or of reducing  
the scope of the CLA protected components, but we're suggesting the  
CLA-all-of-PDO approach first because we believe that it will help us  
get the most out of the vendors.

There is a lot to consider here, and rather than overwhelm the  
discussion with a multitude of options, we wanted to discuss the CLA  
first to determine what exactly the problems are with it, and from  
there we can work on either fixing them or adjusting where the CLA  
applies.

--Wez.