Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2

Hi Marcus,


> Hello Wez,
>
>  this would mean we will stop after PDO is half sorted out. History
> repeats. Let's discuss this and sort it out completely. Remember when the
> dependency system was developed by you? We stopped after it worked for 
> PDO.
> Luckily that was the point where it worked for more. But if we had 
> continued
> we might as well could have figured out the whole PELC vs core thingie. 
> Lets
> address it now completely please.

That's what I meant. We either address the problems and then we have an 
infrastructure that can cope with these PDO issues, or we have to leave PECL 
out of the equation for now.

If we're going the PECL refurbishment route, can we have some way of marking 
non-standard (as in CLA'd or differently-licensed) extensions to make 
contributors' lives easier and future discussions of this nature moot? 
Possibly even a separate CVS module that hooks into the PECL infrastructure?

- Steph

>
> marcus
>
> Saturday, February 2, 2008, 7:40:55 AM, you wrote:
>
>> On Feb 2, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
>
>>>
>>> On 02.02.2008, at 03:39, Wez Furlong wrote:
>>>
>>>> At the time we prepare a PHP release, we could then take the latest
>>>> stable release from PECL for those drivers and put them into the
>>>> "core" tarball (and compile them for the "core" zipfile).
>>>
>>> Can't we explore making this the default for all extensions? Also
>>> while we are at it, I know a number of PECL devs are complaining
>>> about various issues like the branching to maintain versions for
>>> different PHP minor versions etc.
>
>> We can.  I suggest focusing on PDO first and making sure that that
>> works out, and then we can gradually move other extensions in this way.
>
>>> IANAL, but it seems a number of additional rights granted by the PDO
>>> license could be folded into the PHP license. Also what cannot be
>>> folded into the PDO license, could maybe be put into an extended
>>> license (which would need to be allowed). This way the PDO drivers
>>> could be under the extended licensen maybe. Might make things even
>>> less problematic?
>
>> Maybe.  I don't object to this, but just wanted to say again that
>> changing the PHP license is not an objective for PDO 2.
>
>> --Wez.
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Marcus
>
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