Re: [PHP4BETA] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP4BETA] PHP 4.0.0 Release packaged

Hi All,

I would like to mention that I'm trying to build binaries of php4 and all (available) modules as often as possible. I have a very simple web site, http://download.swwwing.com where the latest versions can be downloaded (gd-1.8 support is soon to come). I havent got the time to update te files more than 2-3 times each month, but please use them :-)

- Frank

>> I will use a 'real-world example here. I remember this post, because the 
>> answer *shocked* me. I would expect such an answer from a 16 years old boy. 
>> Not from a mature man. 
>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php4beta&m=95754702605916&w=2 )
>> 
>> >List:     php4beta
>> >Subject:  Re: [PHP4BETA] building php4 snap on win32
>> >From:     Rasmus Lerdorf <[email protected]>
>> >Date:     2000-05-05 17:15:50
>> >[Download message RAW]
>> >
>> > > our admin today built the latest php4 snap for Linux and said that there 
>> > > were several bugs which hindered compiling.
>> > > He patched them and built PHP4 for Linux.
>> >
>> >I hope he submitted appropriate bug reports.
>> >
>> > > I want to use the latest PHP4 version too, but I´m develeoping in Win32 
>> > > and never built something on Win32.
>> > > Can I use the latest snaps for this (I need gd 1.8.1 support)?
>> > > Can someone provide me an URL where to retrieve a compiler for building 
>> > > PHP4 (I do not want to install the MSDN)...
>> >
>> >You are pretty much stuck with MSVC.  You are using a commercial OS, so
>> >you are stuck with commercial tools as well.  Sorry.  There are plenty of
>> >free operating systems and tools available to you.
>> >
>> >-Rasmus
>
>Excuse me?  What is shocking about this response?  The fact that I
>reminded someone to tell us about bugs or that I told someone that they
>needed MSVC to compile PHP for Windows?  There are no decent free
>development environment for Windows.  This is not something we can do much
>about.  And we do no provide snapshot binary releases for Windows.  There
>is nothing immature about this response.  It was a calm and reasoned
>response letting someone know the state of things.  
>
>The only real complaint you can have here is that we should be providing
>Windows snapshots for people.  However, we also do not provide compiled
>snapshots for Unix.  The snapshots we provide are source-code only and
>they are actually not Unix specific in any way.  We provide source code
>snapshots and if you have MSVC you can compile these on NT with a bit of
>effort.  We even provide pretty detailed instructions for doing so.  See:
>
>  http://www.php.net/version4/win32build.php
>
>I don't doubt that there have been some cheeky responses to Windows users
>every now and then, but you decided to pick on one of my responses which
>was a far cry from being unfair in any way.  Someone wanted free tools to
>build PHP for Windows and I told them they didn't really exist, but if the
>tools being free was an important aspect they were available under free
>operating systems.
>
>-Rasmus
>
>
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Swwwing A/S
Frank M. Kromann
VP Development
Phone: +45 70 20 77 20
Fax: +45 70 20 77 21
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