Re: [PHP4BETA] Re: PHP 4.0.0Release packaged

Hello Jim,

On 22-May-00 05:58:52, you wrote:

>On May 22, Manuel Lemos wrote:
>> Great.  So, after all you admit that fixing bugs is not quite a matter of
>> that much free time.  I knew it.  I also know that most PHP contributors
>> rather only add features than fixing bugs and adding documentation because
>> it isn't as much fun.

>In the approximately 40 bugs I closed, I fixed exactly two bugs --
>one by adding a note to the documentation that a function was not
>added until version 4, and about 5 by fixing the Windows mail()
>bug (a one-line code fix, and something I looked into based on an
>offhand comment in an email, not a bug report).

Great.


>The rest were all just bug reports from people who had no regard
>for the time of people who have to deal with the bug reports --
>they included little relevant information, were duplicates of
>existing bugs, or were just plain wrong. Every time I take 5 minutes
>to look into a bug or two in the bug database, I find I'm able to
>close most of them because they simply don't contain enough
>information to even begin to reproduce the bug.

>Of the remaining 561 bugs open against PHP4, I'm willing to bet that
>there are less than 25 real issues. And of those, maybe two will
>possibly show up for more than 5% of PHP users. And I'm probably
>being generous.

I understand.  I am a developer and know the value of a report with
complete information.  Anyway, I was just recommending the fix of
reproducible bugs.


>> Actually I did something more important.  I went through 100K of PHP code
>> trying to eliminate as much as possible of it to reduce to the smallest PHP
>> sample that would be enough to show the behaviour.  Believe me, just this
>> made me stop what I was doing and hang on with that for a whole afternoon.

>And I do appreciate that. Its better than 95% of the other bug
>reporters do. I'm sorry your problem got lost in the muck. But we
>are not going to let the progress of PHP get stuck in that muck
>just because so few are willing to pitch in and clean it up.

Don't worry, Jouni discovered and fixed the problem already.


Regards,
Manuel Lemos

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