Re: [PHP4BETA] Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.0.0Release packaged

On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 07:35:17PM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote:
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> 
> Hello thies,
> 
> On 04-Jun-00 10:19:29, you wrote:
> 
> >> Would it be all to make fd_sets script level variables instead of global
> >> variables or are there other issues that you feel that need to be
> >> addressed?
> 
> >    if somebody bring this code to a "working" state i would be more
> >    than happy with that,. back then i just felt i was a really
> >    bad idea to call a function select() that actually works like
> >    select() but would only work from global-variables.
> 
> So you are saying that is not working at all or just it doesn't work right
> because it uses global variables?

    to be honest - i didn't even try. but the design (using
    globals) was simply wrong. 

> 
> 
> >    i'd like to see a more complete socket-API in php, but it
> >    should be well-thought.
> 
> What else do you feel it is missing besides what it is in there already?

    i'm not the master of socket-api design, but i can spot a
    wrong approch...

> 
> 
> >> BTW, does this code from Evan have anything to do with that code from Chris
> >> that wrote a socket listen PHP extension to develop a PHP IRC server?
> 
> >    i've not seen that code, but i belive - no. look al the last
> 
> Then you may want to look here:
> 
> http://www.legion.f9.co.uk/php-ircd/php-ircd-0.4.2.tar.gz
> 
> If Chris developed a IRC server in PHP with this, maybe he had developed
> enough well to make it work consistently.  I think it maybe a good idea to
> invite Chris to work in the integration of socket select/listen code if
> he has the time.

    this stuff is/was written for PHP 3. i like it though.
> 
> 
> 
> >    100 lines in file.c and judge yourself.
> 
> 
> I don't see the listen code in there. I just see select(). I don't think you
> can write socket deamons with that.
 
    no, you cannot. (the stuff in PHP 4 is "fairly" incomplete)
> 
> 
> >> >    i'm sure it will reappear in good-shape one day. anybody
> >> >    wants to volonteer?
> >> 
> >> I am too busy like everybody else, but once in a while I have some time
> >> free. I can take on the job in my free time, if you can guide me through
> >> the issues that you feel that are necessary to be address.
> 
> >    i think staying near to the unix socket-API would be a
> 
> Yes, but making sure that at least it works compatibly under Windows.  I
> don't know enough Windows socket programming.  Somebody with that skill
> need to contribute or at least give some input.

    i did some winsock coding years ago:(
> 
> 
> >    GoodThing(tm). i'm sure evan could and would have done it,
> >    but he seemed to busy back then (i hope i didn't demotivate
> >    him) and obviously he did not need that support himself.
> 
> Yes, he told me he is too busy, like everybody else. :-(
> 
> 
> >> PHP is lagging in its abilities when compared with other languages like
> >> Perl and Java because there is no way to make it act as backend server that
> >> front end scripts may connect to do assyncronous processing.  I feel that
> >> is the way to go for it.
> 
> >    same here. (i'd like to have a full working gnutella node
> >    written in php!)
> 
> Cool.  Try Chris socket listen extension to see if it can be made to work
> right the way it is.

    ...busy


    tc
> 
> 
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> Manuel Lemos
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