Re: [UG-ADMINS] Code of Conduct, Rules, etc.

As a result of this thread, one of the PHP Hampshire team has added a Code
of Conduct to our website. I would hope that we'd never need to refer to
it, and the behaviour I've seen at our relatively new UG has been good, so
hopefully we never will.

However, here is ours, any feedback is welcome:
http://www.phphants.co.uk/code-of-conduct :)

Thanks
James


On 28 April 2014 14:35, Michelangelo van Dam <[email protected]> wrote:

> We don't have a Code-of-Conduct, terms or any guidelines how people should
> behave. Sandy makes a good point in regards to "legal" issues as businesses
> use these legal documents to protect themselves from prosecution.
>
> On the flip side of things, our user group is a registered organisation and
> therefor a legal entity. This was a necessity for us to organise the
> PHPBenelux conference more easy, but also to get an insurance for the
> organisation covering everyone who's on staff and for attendees in case
> something happens during an event of us.
>
> And we don't have a "sue to sue" kind of society, so on that end we're
> pretty safe. I do feel for all US communities as I know how these legal
> claims can completely ruin a life.
>
> Michelangelo
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Sandy Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if that actually works backwards, though: one of the reasons to
> > have a company or organization is to shield individual participants from
> > liability. So potentially someone could sue whoever is named as the
> > organizer on Meetup if there is no organization behind the group and go
> > after that person's assets (in the USA, not sure how it works elsewhere).
> >
> > If someone with pro-bono access to a lawyer could run it past them, it
> > might be helpful.
> >
> > On Apr 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Brandon Savage <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Absent a formal group being created, most user groups are informal
> > > gatherings of individuals with common interests. To that end, just like
> > if
> > > I don't like how you behave in my house, I have  the right to ask you
> to
> > > leave. I don't think I need to spell out exactly what causes me to ask
> > you
> > > to leave, since that should be self-evident.
> > >
> > > I think for groups that form some kind of legal entity, they may want
> to
> > > obtain a bit more protection with a formal policy. But my policy for
> all
> > > events is "don't be a jerk, or GTFO".
> > >
> > > It probably boils down to group preference.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Jeremy Lindblom <
> [email protected]
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm finding that our group probably should have one. There haven't
> been
> > any
> > >> big incidents, just a few things said on mailing lists causing some
> > >> discomfort, along with a LOT of off topic chatter. I'd like to have
> > >> something to point to. Thanks for your input everyone.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> *Jeremy Lindblom*
> > >> PHP Software Engineer at Amazon Web Services <http://aws.amazon.com/>
> > >> Co-author of the AWS SDK for PHP <http://aws.amazon.com/sdkforphp/>
> > >> Co-organizer of the Seattle PHP User Group <
> > http://www.meetup.com/php-49/>
> > >> @jeremeamia <https://twitter.com/jeremeamia> | http://webjeremy.com |
> > >> https://github.com/jeremeamia
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:18 AM, PHP Belfast <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> We published one on the basis that it doesn't hurt to have it, and if
> > >>> someone does act the maggot, then we can point them to the published
> > >> rules.
> > >>>
> > >>> The short version is
> > >>> "Don't be a dick"
> > >>>
> > >>> There is a longer version, which is very much a standard template.
> > >>>
> > >>> It's a bit like corporate HR depts. - no-one actually wants to have
> > them,
> > >>> until they need them.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I like the notes for speakers that sdphp has published. I might
> > "borrow"
> > >>> that ;)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Lorna Mitchell <[email protected]
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I am not sure where I stand on whether codes of conduct are needed
> by
> > >>> user
> > >>>> groups or not, but it certainly does not depend on whether something
> > >> bad
> > >>>> has already happened at your group.  As someone already mentioned, a
> > >> CoC
> > >>> at
> > >>>> an event or user group shows that someone has considered how to
> handle
> > >>> any
> > >>>> problems that do arise.  On a very personal level, I feel confident
> > >> that
> > >>>> someone, somewhere, would at least listen if the unthinkable should
> > >>> happen.
> > >>>> And people with that attitude tend to run events without issues,
> > >>> strangely
> > >>>> enough!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Lorna
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 24 April 2014 13:45, Adam Culp <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Although I did publish a CoC at SunshinePHP (
> http://sunshinephp.com)
> > >> I
> > >>>>> mistakenly did not feel the need to do so for SoFloPHP
> > >>>>> (http://soflophp.org).  A user group tends to be more intimate,
> and
> > >>>>> communication happens much more quickly and quietly...so I thought.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Last year I had one incident resulting in a member being asked to
> > >>> leave,
> > >>>>> which resulted in a blanket email to our members informing them of
> > >> our
> > >>>>> unpublished CoC.  It was also this occurrence that resulted in my
> > >>> adding
> > >>>>> 4 co-organizers to help keep an eye on things in my absence if I'm
> > >>>>> travelling.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I would caution those who don't speak openly about this to your
> > >>>>> members.  Don't make a big "stink" about it, but at the same time
> > >> make
> > >>>>> something public so members can feel comfortable and know what to
> do
> > >> in
> > >>>>> case of one "bad apple".
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> As for a mission statement, I have that on the landing page of the
> > >> user
> > >>>>> group. http://soflophp.org.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I've also set the meetup.com "thanks for joining" email to carry a
> > >>>>> message setting clear bounds for recruiters.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>> Adam Culp
> > >>>>> 561-870-6361
> > >>>>> Twitter: @adamculp
> > >>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamculp
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 04/23/2014 05:00 PM, Jeremy Lindblom wrote:
> > >>>>>> Do any of your user groups publish a code of conduct? group rules?
> > >>>>> mission
> > >>>>>> statements? or any other documents? Just curious.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> *Jeremy Lindblom*
> > >>>>>> PHP Software Engineer at Amazon Web Services <
> > >> http://aws.amazon.com/
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> Co-author of the AWS SDK for PHP <
> http://aws.amazon.com/sdkforphp/
> > >>>
> > >>>>>> Co-organizer of the Seattle PHP User Group <
> > >>>>> http://www.meetup.com/php-49/>
> > >>>>>> @jeremeamia <https://twitter.com/jeremeamia> |
> > >> http://webjeremy.com|
> > >>>>>> https://github.com/jeremeamia
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Usergroup Coordination Mailing List (http://ug.php.net)
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Lorna Mitchell
> > >>>> http://lornajane.net
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> twitter: @PHPBelfast <https://twitter.comphpbelfast/>
> > >>> web:    phpbelfast.com
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > Sandy Smith - http://musketeers.me/
> > php[architect] magazine: http://phparch.com/
> >
> > @SandyS1
> >
> >
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