Re: [UG-ADMINS] Code of Conduct, Rules, etc.

Thanks Eli - we'll take a look at that! :)


On 29 April 2014 04:31, Eli <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here is one CoC that was produced by the Ada Initiative (and is
> maintained on GitHub) ...
> http://confcodeofconduct.com/
>
> It has 2 versions.  Now it HAPPENS to be designed for conferences.  But
> small changes to the verbiage could be used to make it for ug's as well.
>
> Eli
>
>
> On 4/28/14, 4:19 PM, Richard Holloway wrote:
> >
> > I'd hope that we do refer to it.
> >
> > It isn't just a stick to hit people with.  Having a code of conduct
> > sends a positive message.  It makes a commitment to anyone that wants
> > to get involved, that they are just as much a part of the community as
> > anyone else and will be treated as such.
> >
> > If you want to have a CoC but can't find the time to put one together,
> > feel free to borrow what you need from this one.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 28/04/14 15:39, James Titcumb wrote:
> >> As a result of this thread, one of the PHP Hampshire team has added a
> >> Code
> >> of Conduct to our website. I would hope that we'd never need to refer to
> >> it, and the behaviour I've seen at our relatively new UG has been
> >> good, so
> >> hopefully we never will.
> >>
> >> However, here is ours, any feedback is welcome:
> >> http://www.phphants.co.uk/code-of-conduct :)
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> James
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28 April 2014 14:35, Michelangelo van Dam <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> We don't have a Code-of-Conduct, terms or any guidelines how people
> >>> should
> >>> behave. Sandy makes a good point in regards to "legal" issues as
> >>> businesses
> >>> use these legal documents to protect themselves from prosecution.
> >>>
> >>> On the flip side of things, our user group is a registered
> >>> organisation and
> >>> therefor a legal entity. This was a necessity for us to organise the
> >>> PHPBenelux conference more easy, but also to get an insurance for the
> >>> organisation covering everyone who's on staff and for attendees in case
> >>> something happens during an event of us.
> >>>
> >>> And we don't have a "sue to sue" kind of society, so on that end we're
> >>> pretty safe. I do feel for all US communities as I know how these legal
> >>> claims can completely ruin a life.
> >>>
> >>> Michelangelo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Sandy Smith <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I wonder if that actually works backwards, though: one of the
> >>>> reasons to
> >>>> have a company or organization is to shield individual participants
> >>>> from
> >>>> liability. So potentially someone could sue whoever is named as the
> >>>> organizer on Meetup if there is no organization behind the group
> >>>> and go
> >>>> after that person's assets (in the USA, not sure how it works
> >>>> elsewhere).
> >>>>
> >>>> If someone with pro-bono access to a lawyer could run it past them, it
> >>>> might be helpful.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Brandon Savage
> >>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Absent a formal group being created, most user groups are informal
> >>>>> gatherings of individuals with common interests. To that end, just
> >>>>> like
> >>>> if
> >>>>> I don't like how you behave in my house, I have  the right to ask you
> >>> to
> >>>>> leave. I don't think I need to spell out exactly what causes me to
> >>>>> ask
> >>>> you
> >>>>> to leave, since that should be self-evident.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think for groups that form some kind of legal entity, they may want
> >>> to
> >>>>> obtain a bit more protection with a formal policy. But my policy for
> >>> all
> >>>>> events is "don't be a jerk, or GTFO".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It probably boils down to group preference.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Jeremy Lindblom <
> >>> [email protected]
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm finding that our group probably should have one. There haven't
> >>> been
> >>>> any
> >>>>>> big incidents, just a few things said on mailing lists causing some
> >>>>>> discomfort, along with a LOT of off topic chatter. I'd like to have
> >>>>>> something to point to. Thanks for your input everyone.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> *Jeremy Lindblom*
> >>>>>> PHP Software Engineer at Amazon Web Services
> >>>>>> <http://aws.amazon.com/>
> >>>>>> Co-author of the AWS SDK for PHP <http://aws.amazon.com/sdkforphp/>
> >>>>>> Co-organizer of the Seattle PHP User Group <
> >>>> http://www.meetup.com/php-49/>
> >>>>>> @jeremeamia <https://twitter.com/jeremeamia> |
> >>>>>> http://webjeremy.com |
> >>>>>> https://github.com/jeremeamia
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:18 AM, PHP Belfast <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> We published one on the basis that it doesn't hurt to have it,
> >>>>>>> and if
> >>>>>>> someone does act the maggot, then we can point them to the
> >>>>>>> published
> >>>>>> rules.
> >>>>>>> The short version is
> >>>>>>> "Don't be a dick"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is a longer version, which is very much a standard template.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's a bit like corporate HR depts. - no-one actually wants to have
> >>>> them,
> >>>>>>> until they need them.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I like the notes for speakers that sdphp has published. I might
> >>>> "borrow"
> >>>>>>> that ;)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Lorna Mitchell
> >>>>>>> <[email protected]
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I am not sure where I stand on whether codes of conduct are needed
> >>> by
> >>>>>>> user
> >>>>>>>> groups or not, but it certainly does not depend on whether
> >>>>>>>> something
> >>>>>> bad
> >>>>>>>> has already happened at your group.  As someone already
> >>>>>>>> mentioned, a
> >>>>>> CoC
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>> an event or user group shows that someone has considered how to
> >>> handle
> >>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>> problems that do arise.  On a very personal level, I feel
> >>>>>>>> confident
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> someone, somewhere, would at least listen if the unthinkable
> >>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>> happen.
> >>>>>>>> And people with that attitude tend to run events without issues,
> >>>>>>> strangely
> >>>>>>>> enough!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Lorna
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 24 April 2014 13:45, Adam Culp <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Although I did publish a CoC at SunshinePHP (
> >>> http://sunshinephp.com)
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> mistakenly did not feel the need to do so for SoFloPHP
> >>>>>>>>> (http://soflophp.org).  A user group tends to be more intimate,
> >>> and
> >>>>>>>>> communication happens much more quickly and quietly...so I
> >>>>>>>>> thought.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Last year I had one incident resulting in a member being asked to
> >>>>>>> leave,
> >>>>>>>>> which resulted in a blanket email to our members informing
> >>>>>>>>> them of
> >>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>> unpublished CoC.  It was also this occurrence that resulted in my
> >>>>>>> adding
> >>>>>>>>> 4 co-organizers to help keep an eye on things in my absence if
> >>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>> travelling.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would caution those who don't speak openly about this to your
> >>>>>>>>> members.  Don't make a big "stink" about it, but at the same time
> >>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>> something public so members can feel comfortable and know what to
> >>> do
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> case of one "bad apple".
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> As for a mission statement, I have that on the landing page of
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>> user
> >>>>>>>>> group. http://soflophp.org.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've also set the meetup.com "thanks for joining" email to
> >>>>>>>>> carry a
> >>>>>>>>> message setting clear bounds for recruiters.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Adam Culp
> >>>>>>>>> 561-870-6361
> >>>>>>>>> Twitter: @adamculp
> >>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamculp
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 04/23/2014 05:00 PM, Jeremy Lindblom wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Do any of your user groups publish a code of conduct? group
> >>>>>>>>>> rules?
> >>>>>>>>> mission
> >>>>>>>>>> statements? or any other documents? Just curious.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> *Jeremy Lindblom*
> >>>>>>>>>> PHP Software Engineer at Amazon Web Services <
> >>>>>> http://aws.amazon.com/
> >>>>>>>>>> Co-author of the AWS SDK for PHP <
> >>> http://aws.amazon.com/sdkforphp/
> >>>>>>>>>> Co-organizer of the Seattle PHP User Group <
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.meetup.com/php-49/>
> >>>>>>>>>> @jeremeamia <https://twitter.com/jeremeamia> |
> >>>>>> http://webjeremy.com|
> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jeremeamia
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Usergroup Coordination Mailing List (http://ug.php.net)
> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Lorna Mitchell
> >>>>>>>> http://lornajane.net
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> twitter: @PHPBelfast <https://twitter.comphpbelfast/>
> >>>>>>> web:    phpbelfast.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sandy Smith - http://musketeers.me/
> >>>> php[architect] magazine: http://phparch.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> @SandyS1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
> >
>
> --
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