Re: [UG-ADMINS] Karma System

Hi Ben!
(Last post on this, I promise)

>It sounds like Brazil has unique challenges that I've never had to face in
running a user group.

Possible. One thing I learned in my very short time over in Sao Paulo is
that what we usually refer to as "The PHP Community", at least in my mind,
is the North American and European PHP Communities. Brazil has a thriving
and growing community. I was amazed at how it is growing, and more than a
little ashamed of my  NA/EU centric view of what the community is. (I'm
actually working on a blog post)

So yes, they may have different issues, or maybe they just have ideas on
how to motivate PHP developers that differ from what we've tried before.
That doesn't make them wrong, just means that they are different.

The thing I like about this idea is that there is no pressure on any group
to participate. If a leader decides for the group, I think that's bad, but
if the group decides that this isn't something of interest to them, fine.
Unlike SO, I don't see participation in this program as a definition of
being a part of the PHP community, it's just gamification of participation.

My $0.02 worth. :)

Cheers!
=C=


On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Ben Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:

> It sounds like Brazil has unique challenges that I've never had to face in
> running a user group. I've never had to figure out who has enough merit to
> be given responsibilities or to vote on things. I've always asked "members"
> for feedback and suggestions, but I've relied on a more-or-less central
> leadership group (dictatorship) to make the decisions and delegate to
> members who are eager to help. I'm interested in hearing more about how you
> run things in Brazil.
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Paulo Eduardo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yes Stuart
> >
> > Thank you for bring that to my memory, is exactly something like Whuffie
> > from "Down & Out In the Magic Kingdom"
> >
> > Atenciosamente
> > Paulo Eduardo
> > www.pauloeduardo.com
> > www.psyco.com.br
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Stuart Grimshaw <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I've always liked the idea of Whuffie from Cory Doctorow's "Down & Out
> In
> >> the Magic Kingdom", I always thought that would work well in tech
> >> circles...
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie
> >>
> >>
> >> -S
> >>
> >> Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/stubbs
> >> Blog: http://blog.stuartgrimshaw.co.uk/
> >> GPG Key ID: 684CF089
> >> GPG Key Fingerprint: 5E48 F78E 2904 478C F209 4A37 C446 73C2 684C F089
> >>
> >> On 27 April 2015 at 21:47, Ben Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > A while back, the idea of community "badges" sounded appealing to me,
> >> but
> >> > after giving it a lot of thought, I'm not so sure it will work well at
> >> the
> >> > local level.
> >> >
> >> > We have a duty as user group leaders to ensure that people feel
> welcome
> >> at
> >> > our groups and to understand that each person participates at the
> level
> >> > they feel comfortable. Just because someone participates at a "lower"
> >> level
> >> > than us doesn't make their participation insignificant.
> >> >
> >> > Over the years, I have seen people who have only attended one or fewer
> >> > meetings a year, who have lurked on the mailing list and IRC, posting
> >> very
> >> > little (if at all). Yet, that passive participation still makes them
> >> feel
> >> > like they are a part of the group; it is still THEIR group. They often
> >> read
> >> > the messages and follow along, even if they don't appear active to us.
> >> >
> >> > I like having these people as members of the group. I want to
> encourage
> >> > them to be more active, but even if they choose not to become more
> >> active
> >> > (according to my definition of "active"), they should not be punished
> >> for
> >> > their passive involvement. I think gamifying the user group would hurt
> >> > their involvement and they may see it as a punishment for
> participating
> >> in
> >> > their own way.
> >> >
> >> > This has led to a loose definition of "membership" for me. In fact, I
> >> try
> >> > to keep it as loose as possible. In short, if you're signed up for the
> >> > mailing list (or Meetup.com, or the forums, or whatever), then you're
> a
> >> > member. It's that simple. (It also means I don't have to worry about
> >> > defining what an "active member" is.)
> >> >
> >> > Just my $0.02. :-)
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Ben
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>



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