Re: [UG-ADMINS] What about making this list public on https://www.mail-archive.com/

[email protected] (Lorna Mitchell) Sat, 30 Jan 2016 15:24:22 +0000
Newsgroups ug.admins
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By moving the list away from php.net, are we moving the user groups away
from the main php.net project, or just choosing a different tooling?  I am
unclear what structure a new list would be part of, so I'm unsure about
this move but I'm definitely +1 on making it easier for user group leaders
to be in touch with one another.

Lorna

On 30 January 2016 at 08:46, Sean Prunka <[email protected]> wrote:

> It seems that all the current venues are effectively open to the public.
>
> This list, for public announcements.
> IRC, for various discussions.
> Slack, for inter-group coordination.
>
> Perhaps keeping all of these and adding a "closed" group mailing list for
> leadership concerns, advice, and the like might not be a bad idea.
>
> Each venue currently available (and proposed) adds value to a different
> aspect of UG leadership and/or "daily" operations.
>
> I do also recognize that have to many disparate venues of communication
> leads to disorganization, confusion, and the potential for cross-posting
> and mis-posting.
>
> I'm not sure where the happy medium exists.
>
> --Sean
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016, 03:23 Andreas Heigl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sean.
> >
> > Am 30.01.16 um 08:05 schrieb Sean Prunka:
> > > It sounds like there is a strong desire for a public facing presence
> that
> > > is [perhaps] more accessible to new UGs and to the community at large
> > than
> > > this list currently is;
> > >
> > > But at the same time, there is a desire for a private discussion area
> > where
> > > we can "talk shop" about things specific to UG admins that do not need
> to
> > > be (and in some cases, perhaps should not be) publicly
> > readable/accessible.
> > >
> > > Is there a convenient way to both have our cake and eat it too?
> >
> > I don't think there's a way to have *both* approaches in one single list.
> >
> > There is this list for UG-Admins with announcments and infos that is
> > publicly available (if you know where to search for it) and there's the
> > IRC-Channel #phpgroups (which is always rather quiet). It's the "old
> > school" INformation channel and especially the Mailinglist sometimes
> > contains material that should not be publicly available in my eyes.
> > Every Person running a usergroup should be registered here.
> >
> > And than there's the phpug-slack team at https://phpug.slack.com[1]
> > where not only the usergroup-leaders are welcome to join but also the
> > usergroup-members. I set that team up as part of php.ug to enable
> > usergroups to easily interact with one another and to allow easy
> > interaction between different usergroups. It has *never* been though as
> > a replacement to this mailinglist but as an addition! So far it seems to
> > work out. So that would be a more public approach that is strongly
> > frequented especially by new usergroups.
> >
> > And those two "solutions" can perfectyl coexist in my eyes. Or do you
> > think otherwise?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > [1] Get an invitation to the slack team from
> > http://murmuring-forest-7062.herokuapp.com/
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Lorna Mitchell
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