Re: [RFCv2 PATCH 0/6] Support memory hotplug/unplug for TDX CoCo guests
"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <[email protected]>
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On 8/27/26 10:18, Duan, Zhenzhong wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Hildenbrand (Arm) <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [RFCv2 PATCH 0/6] Support memory hotplug/unplug for TDX CoCo >> guests >> >> On 6/23/26 12:17, Zhenzhong Duan wrote: >>> This RFCv2 series implements comprehensive support for virtio-mem and ACPI >>> DIMM memory hotplug/unplug in Intel TDX confidential computing guests. >>> It explores the start-private memory approach utilizing the native >>> TDG.MEM.PAGE.RELEASE API. >>> >>> We are seeking feedback from Kiryl on the CoCo guest implementation, MM >>> experts on DIMM & virio-mem memory hotplug integration and broader >>> virtio/CoCo community input on the overall approach. We are not seeking >>> x86 maintainer review at this stage. >>> >>> == Changes from RFC v1 == >>> >>> - Eliminated callback infrastructure: Dropped plug callback and replaced >>> unplug callback with platform-level unaccept function into core MM >>> hotplug and virtio-mem subsystems. >>> - Added comprehensive bitmap tracking: Introduced a "plugged" bitmap >>> alongside the unaccepted bitmap to track populated hotplug memory >>> states to support load_unaligned_zeropad(). >>> - Enhanced SRAT parsing: Extended the EFI stub to parse ACPI SRAT tables >>> early, ensuring hotpluggable ranges are tracked from initial boot. >>> >>> For more introduction about the background or other efforts in community, >>> please check the RFCv1 cover letter [1]. >>> >>> == Technical Approach == >>> >>> - Early SRAT Integration: A lightweight EFI stub parser scans ACPI SRAT >>> tables to identify hotpluggable ranges and adjust bitmap boundaries >>> early, avoiding the overhead of the full ACPI subsystem. >>> - Comprehensive Bitmap Tracking: Introduces a "plugged" bitmap right >>> after the unaccepted bitmap. Both static and hotplugged memory are >>> tracked, allowing the guest to map which ranges are populated by the >>> VMM. This prevents acceptance beyond plugged memory boundaries due to >>> load_unaligned_zeropad() operations. >>> - Platform Extensibility: Exposes generic CoCo memory interfaces. Other >>> confidential platforms (like AMD SEV-SNP) can easily adopt this by >>> hooking their specific mechanisms into arch_unaccept_memory(). >>> - Hotplug & Guest Control: Integrates platform-level unaccept logic >>> into ACPI hotplug and virtio-mem handlers. Uses TDG.MEM.PAGE.RELEASE >>> for TDX to explicitly set memory to the "unaccepted" state during >>> unplug, removing host hole-punching dependencies. >>> - Kexec Handover: Leverages existing EFI mechanisms to seamlessly hand >>> over both the extended unaccepted bitmap and the new plugged bitmap >>> across kexec boundaries. >>> >>> == Testing == >>> >>> - dimm and virtio-mem memory hotplug/unplug >>> - lazy and eager accept >>> - kexec/kdump with hotplugged memory >>> >>> This is tested with Marc-André Lureau's newest qemu series [2] >> >> What's the status of this? > > Marc's QEMU series is merged. > For this series, following feedback from Kirill and Pratik, the preferred approach > is updating the UEFI spec for hotplug memory ranges rather than parsing SRAT > at the EFI stage. Pratik is already pushing this forward, I am currently waiting on > his RFCs. If he hasn't taken over the entire implementation, I can rebase my > remaining patches on top of his work. > > Hi Pratik, have you sent your UEFI RFC out yet? Just wanted to make sure > I didn't miss your thread. > >> >> I am still not sure whether we shouldn't perform acceptance from >> move_pfn_range_to_zone() and from memory notifiers / generic_online_page. > > My understanding is that we already have full support for lazy and eager acceptance > in generic_online_page() for static memory. We should be able to reuse that for > hotplug memory and avoid adding acceptance logic in other places. > > All we need is extending unaccept_bitmap and adding new plugged_bitmap to support > hotplug memory. I updated accept_memory() to check both bitmaps to determine > which memory should be accepted. The plugged bitmap is a very odd beast. I hate it, but I can see why it might currently be required. I wonder if there is a better name for it because "plugged" is an overloaded term. What are the real semantics we want to express? IIUC, unplug for virtio-mem requires prior conversion to shared memory. We should have an intuitive mechanism for virtio-mem to just do the right thing when unplugging memory (IOW, preparing for handback to the hypervisor). > >> >> In particular, it's unclear to me how virtio-mem (which uses interfaces to >> add/remove memory) interacts with unaccept_memory / coco bitmap. > > It works the same way as a physical DIMM: when memory is plugged, the > corresponding bits in plugged_bitmap are set, and vice versa. Well, no. When adding a Linux memory block through add_memory_resource() you do coco_set_plugged_bitmap(). And in virtio_mem_send_plug_request() you do coco_set_plugged_bitmap(). That's just super inconsistent and messy. (coco_set_plugged_bitmap() and memory acceptance should *definitely not* be open-coded like that in virtio_mem. There must be a clear abstraction layer with clear, well documented semantics that virito-mem can iuse) > > Memory acceptance is already handled in generic_online_page(), so we > do not need to do it inside virtio-mem. However, we do need to call > unaccept_memory() during a memory unplug event in virtio-mem. Again, I think we really need an abstraction that can just naturally be extended for platforms that have to perform some work when returning memory to the hypervisor. Open-coding x86's unaccept_memory() is not the way to go. > > Currently, tdx_unaccept_memory() can act as a no-op since QEMU handles > hole-punching the private memory. That said, we still need to invoke > unaccept_memory() to properly update the unaccept_bitmap bits. > >> >> Can we have an overall design view on what happens at which stage when adding >> / >> removing memory through virtio-mem? > > I have put together a design view summary for virtio-mem below. > Please let me know if this looks correct or if we should adjust the framing. > > Design Overview > --------------- > We maintain system stability and state safety using two metadata tracking > layers during dynamic memory resizing operations: > 1. plugged_bitmap: Explicitly tracks blocks plugged into the guest. > This protects load_unaligned_zeropad() from reading omitted memory > holes, preventing catastrophic guest crashes. I hate load_unaligned_zeropad() so much at this point. We should finally rip it out. I wish I would have more spare time to look into that. The plugged bitmap is a clear sign that load_unaligned_zeropad() just has to go instead of us hacking around it. > 2. unaccept_bitmap: Explicitly tracks the secure page initialization state. I didn't fully grasp the level of hackery we have to apply to make load_unaligned_zeropad() not do stupid things. Am I correct that we have to accept more memory, possibly falling into unplugged virtio-mem ranges? What is the effect of that? > > Step-by-Step Lifecycle Stages > ----------------------------- > Using sub-block hotplug of a new memory block with eager acceptance > as an example: > > 1. Memory Addition (Plug) Stage > a. Host notifies guest -> virtio-mem driver handles the plug event. > b. Driver marks the allocated memory ranges in 'plugged_bitmap' by > calling coco_set_plugged_bitmap(addr, size, true). During this stage, > a plug request is also sent to the VMM. > c. Driver adds memory blocks via add_memory_resource(). Assume you hotplug a single device block (e.g., 2M). virtio-mem will set the plugged bitmap of that one block. But add_memory_resource() will set the plugged bitmap of the entire Linux memory block. That seems completely broken? -- Cheers, David