Re: [PATCH RFC 00/12] mm/slab, alloc_tag: reduce obj_ext memory waste
Suren Baghdasaryan <[email protected]>
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 8:29 PM Harry Yoo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 7/16/26 12:32 AM, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 3:10 AM Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> The recent fixes for objext array handling inspired me to look into this > >> finally. It's been bothering me that the memory usage of struct > >> slabobj_ext depend only on config options and not whether the fields are > >> actually used. > > +1 one more person bothered by this... > > >> So with both CONFIG_MEMCG=y and > >> CONFIG_MEM_ALLOC_PROFILING=y there is always objcg field and codetag_ref > >> field. And thus: > >> > >> 1) Having memory allocation profiling config-enabled but not > >> boot-enabled means wasted memory on unused codetag_refs. This makes > >> it less suitable for a general distro config and the page allocator > >> side doesn't suffer from this, only slab and percpu. > >> > >> 2) Complementary, with memory allocation profiling enabled, there are > >> caches/slabs that don't need the objcg field, so memory is wasted on > >> those. > > > > It's funny because yesterday I started working on a prototype for the > > same optimization. But your patchset is much more mature, so I'll > > focus instead on reviewing it. > > Ouch, a race condition! > > >> This series should solve the point 1) fully for slab, pcpuobj_ext > >> handling can be perhaps improved similarly, haven't looked into that. > >> > >> For 2) it avoids allocating objcg fields for KMALLOC_NORMAL caches where > >> we know they are not necessary because kmalloc() with __GFP_ACCOUNT will > >> pick a KMALLOC_CGROUP type. > > Unless KMALLOC_RECLAIM != KMALLOC_NORMAL! (yes, SLUB_TINY) > > >> The named kmem_caches are tricky. They can be created with SLAB_ACCOUNT > >> and then we know objcg fields are always needed. But also they can be > >> created without SLAB_ACCOUNT and then some allocations have > >> __GFP_ACCOUNT and some not and we don't know that in advance. > > > > Do you know how often this happens that a named cache with no > > SLAB_ACCOUNT is used for __GFP_ACCOUNT allocation? > > Not sure about how often, but one thing I recall is xarray > (radix_tree_node cache), which decides to account the objects based on > xarray flags. > > >> A possible future solution is to introduce e.g. SLAB_MAYBE_ACCOUNT, add > >> it to caches where we know __GFP_ACCOUNT is used, and only honour > >> __GFP_ACCOUNT for those, while warning for an unexpected usage > >> elsewhere. > > > > I wonder if for such caches we could create two separate caches, one > > serving __GFP_ACCOUNT and using extentions containing objcg and > > another one for non-__GFP_ACCOUNT with optimized extentions? > > You mean transparently to users? (e.g., user thinks it has created > a single kmem_cache but actually there are two of them, multiplexed by > __GFP_ACCOUNT bit) Yeah and only when we detect that a cache that does not have SLAB_ACCOUNT is used to allocate with __GFP_ACCOUNT set. Not sure about the performance impact though... > > -- > Cheers, > Harry / Hyeonggon