Re: on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform

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From: Alejandro Colomar <[email protected]>
To: "G. Branden Robinson" <[email protected]>
Cc: Sam James <[email protected]>, Joseph Myers <[email protected]>, 
	[email protected], Keith Bostic <[email protected]>, 
	Mark Harris <[email protected]>, Nevin Liber <[email protected]>, 
	JeanHeyd Meneide <[email protected]>, Christopher Bazley <[email protected]>, 
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <[email protected]>, Iker Pedrosa <[email protected]>, 
	"Evgeny Grin (Karlson2k)" <[email protected]>, Kees Cook <[email protected]>, [email protected], 
	[email protected], Douglas McIlroy <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform
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Hi Branden,

> Date: 2026-08-01 15:18:49-0500
> From: "G. Branden Robinson" <[email protected]>
>
> Hi Sam & Alex,
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> Just a quick note on conflicts on interest since I'm the one who dragged
> that label into the conversation--though the concept was implicitly
> present already.
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> At 2026-08-01T15:38:42+0100, Sam James wrote:
> > Alejandro Colomar <[email protected]> writes:
> > > FWIW, regarding the possible conflict of interest that was mentioned
> > > yesterday, I'll say that I don't get paid for my contributions to
> > > ISO C as a member of WG14.  There's no benefit to me other than
> > > public recognition.  I'll also disclose the exact quantity that I've
> > > been paid for maintaining the Linux man-pages project:
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> > You can have a conflict of interest in responsibliity without money
> > being involved. In fact, I have never believed you were influenced by
> > money,
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> Sam makes a good point, and Alex, I think you overlooked one.
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> Disclosure of the quantity of your compensation as Linux man-pages
> maintainer is of less importance than _who_ sponsored your work.

That's public, and has been since the begining.  It's published in the
git repository:

	$ cat SPONSORS=20
	Google               <https://opensource.google/>
	Hudson River Trading <https://www.hudsonrivertrading.com/>
	Meta                 <https://www.meta.com/>

Here's the history of that file:

	$ git log --pretty=3Dreference -p -- SPONSORS=20
	6d9ae347cfac (SPONSORS: Two sponsors didn't renew this year, 2025-10-29)

	diff --git a/SPONSORS b/SPONSORS
	index 440fcca8b9ed..4b2f2e9011b8 100644
	--- a/SPONSORS
	+++ b/SPONSORS
	@@ -1,5 +1,3 @@
	-Adfinis              <https://adfinis.com/>
	 Google               <https://opensource.google/>
	 Hudson River Trading <https://www.hudsonrivertrading.com/>
	 Meta                 <https://www.meta.com/>
	-Red Hat              <https://www.redhat.com/>
	7ea35690e060 (SPONSORS: Publish the sponsors of this project, 2025-01-15)

	diff --git a/SPONSORS b/SPONSORS
	new file mode 100644
	index 000000000000..440fcca8b9ed
	--- /dev/null
	+++ b/SPONSORS
	@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
	+Adfinis              <https://adfinis.com/>
	+Google               <https://opensource.google/>
	+Hudson River Trading <https://www.hudsonrivertrading.com/>
	+Meta                 <https://www.meta.com/>
	+Red Hat              <https://www.redhat.com/>


Cheers,
Alex

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