Re: dosemu and accessibility

Yes, easier to get to with top posting.  Slackware hasn't yet got dosemu2 
but archlinux has it in git and since hard drives are interchangeable here 
I can run archlinux.



On Wed, 31 Mar 2021, Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:

> Are mail replies at the top easier for you to process?
>
> It would be better to move to DOSEMU2 as nobody can really help with the 
> older version anymore. Do you have the ability to sign up for a GitHub 
> account? To receive the mails on dosemu2 one has to log on to GitHub and 
> press "watch" and then "all activity" at the top of of this page:
> https://github.com/dosemu2/dosemu2
>
> Let it know if that turns out to be difficult. Using dumb or terminal mode 
> would indeed seem the easiest way to have dosemu accessible as those modes 
> are entirely text based. Are you aware of graphical software for dos that has 
> accessibility features?
>
> Op 30-03-2021 om 21:59 schreef Jude DaShiell:
>>  Hi, I have cloned stuff from github before and built it on my system. This
>>  distribution is slint.  When packages are new, slackbuilds.org may have a
>>  SlackBuild script made for the package so others can install it on slint
>>  and on slackware.  Slint is slackware international version and is at
>>  https://slint.fr/.  All of this work was done in dosemu 1.4.0.8.
>>  I learned sdl exposes no accessibility information at all so it's
>>  unuseable for any screen readers.  I thought that was the case and got it
>>  confirmed by a sighted person doing accessibility work on orca.  I'm
>>  running dosemu with espeakup and will try it later with provox and tdsr
>>  two other console screen readers.
>>  Better yet to move on up to dosemu2 as well.  Thanks for the heads up on
>>  this and if dosemu2 has its own email list I'd like to subscribe to that
>>  one.
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, 30 Mar 2021, Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Jude,
>>>
>>>  Op 29-03-2021 om 10:43 schreef Jude DaShiell:
>>>>   I put a .dosemurc and .mtoolsrc file together since a long-standing
>>>>  friend
>>>>   has some dos applications he'd like to run and both of us are blind.
>>>  I saw some of your previous messages and I think it is important to
>>>  highlight that as you are blind, you are using different equipment than
>>>  what previous respondents probably assumed you were using.
>>>
>>>  This mailing list is barely used anymore by the rest of the DOSEMU user
>>>  community and so are all the 1.x versions of DOSEMU. There is now a
>>>  GitHub project started by Stas, the DOSEMU 2 project, with versioning to
>>>  be 2.x based and interaction went over to the infrastructure that GitHub
>>>  is providing. The accessibility consequences of this were most likely
>>>  never taken into consideration.
>>>
>>>  Unfortunately it is not something that can be changed overnight, but I
>>>  think it would be appropriate to strive to fix this, especially if you
>>>  would be interested in being more involved and/or there might be even
>>>  more DOSEMU users in a similar situation.
>>>
>>>  My proposal would be to set up some simple webpages that are friendly to
>>>  screen readers and braille devices as part of the new DOSEMU 2 project
>>>  with instructions to install newer packages particularly for
>>>  distributions that handle screen readers and braille screens well or at
>>>  least the distributions popular among users of such devices. Maybe your
>>>  .dosemurc and .mtoolsrc could be provided as well.
>>>
>>>  There could possibly be an instruction to sign up your e-mail address as
>>>  a so-called watcher to the DOSEMU 2 project or maybe we could link this
>>>  mailing list so it watches the DOSEMU 2 project. The amount of traffic is
>>>  quite significant, on some days only a few messages, but sometimes there
>>>  might be over 20 mails a day. Note that you can respond to those messages
>>>  by e-mail and the replies will by part of the conversation as usual.
>>>  Searching online I found a community on GitHub called Blind Computing.
>>>  Maybe we could ask them for advice.
>>>
>>>  How easy would it be for you to upgrade to a newer DOSEMU if packages are
>>>  not provided by your distribution? Which distribution are you using?
>>>  What do you think of my proposals regarding the mails?
>>>
>>>  Here is the GitHub project for DOSEMU 2, I do not know if you can access
>>>  it comfortably:
>>>  https://github.com/dosemu2
>>>
>>>  Here is the page on the Blind Computing website about contributing to
>>>  their GitHub project:
>>>  https://blindcomputing.org/contributing/
>>>
>>>  Best regards,
>>>  Julius
>>> 
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