Re: [PATCH] ovl: Allow changing default fsync_mode
Gao Xiang <[email protected]> Wed, 24 Jun 2026 11:36:06 +0800
| Newsgroups | org.kernel.vger.linux-unionfs,org.kernel.vger.linux-fsdevel,org.kernel.vger.linux-kernel |
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| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
On 2026/6/24 11:28, Yafang Shao wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 11:17 AM Gao Xiang <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On 2026/6/24 10:30, Yafang Shao wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 10:28 AM Gao Xiang <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2026/6/24 10:09, Yafang Shao wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at 10:52 PM Amir Goldstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at 3:47 PM Gao Xiang <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Since the "volatile" option has been working fine for over a year >>>>> across our large fleet of Kubernetes production servers, I submitted >>>>> this change to upstream. In Kubernetes environments, there is no use >>>>> case for remounting the workdir to the same directory, so the volatile >>>>> file won't cause any issues — which is why the "volatile" setting has >>>>> been working well there. >>>> That is not an excuse to introduce such new incompatible behavior >>>> to the linux upstream starting only for your customized fleet and >>>> bother every single opensource user/application to adapt this >>>> behavior which uses overlayfs now. >>>> >>>> If you insist to work on a breaking change, please gather >>>> userspace feedback boardly first. >>>> >>>> And here I just say you and your employer are lucky since I >>>> know it's also risky even on the generic kubernate perspective. >>>> Please just maintain your livepatch downstream, thanks. >>>> >>>> No need to reply, and I won't reply this either, it's just >>>> waste of my time to explain a basic upstream principle again >>>> and again. >>> >>> I'll just go ahead and redirect you to /dev/null ;) >> >> The whole thread is: >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-unionfs/[email protected]/T/#u >> >> Personally, I feel offensive due to Yafang's expression >> written above. I keep maintain my replies in technical >> discussion, but the replies above already include the >> following words: >> >> "No wonder containerd is getting harder and harder to use ;)" >> >> "Please do your homework." >> >> "Again, pls do your homework." >> >> and the emotional texts `;)` make me feel uneasy over the >> time, >> >> especially the final words "I'll just go ahead and redirect >> you to /dev/null ;)" >> >> So I write an email as a public report to the CoC since I'm >> not sure how to proceed to comment the community patches >> because I could get offence as a result. > > I believe you could learn a thing or two from Amir about how to > comment on others' patches ;) ;) Please let me know why you commented: "No wonder containerd is getting harder and harder to use ;)" ;) Thanks, Gao Xiang >