Re: [PATCH v5 3/8] arm64: entry: add unwind info for various kernel entries

Dylan Hatch <[email protected]>
Newsgroups org.kernel.vger.live-patching,org.infradead.lists.linux-arm-kernel,org.kernel.vger.linux-kernel,org.kernel.vger.linux-toolchains
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On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 1:58 AM Mark Rutland <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 08:30:43PM -0700, Dylan Hatch wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 8:26 AM Mark Rutland <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 06:36:38PM +0000, Dylan Hatch wrote:
> > > > From: Weinan Liu <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > > DWARF CFI (Call Frame Information) specifies how to recover the return
> > > > address and callee-saved registers at each PC in a given function.
> > > > Compilers are able to generate the CFI annotations when they compile
> > > > the code to assembly language. For handcrafted assembly, we need to
> > > > annotate them by hand.
> > > >
> > > > Annotate minimal CFI to enable stacktracing using SFrame for kernel
> > > > exception entries through el1*_64_*() paths
> > >
> > > I thought we were only consuming SFrame when unwinding an exeption
> > > boundary?
> > >
> > > We shouldn't be taking exceptions _from_ the entry assembly functions
> > > unless something has gone horribly wrong, and so I don't see why we'd
> > > need CFI entries for the entry assembly functions.
> > >
> > > Am I missing some reason we need CFI entries for the entry assembly
> > > functions? I strongly suspect it is not necessary to add these, and I'd
> > > prefer to omit them.
> >
> > I believe the el1 entry functions are called in an exception, and are
> > called before call_on_irq_stack.
>
> Yes, but I don't think that matters. See below for more details.
>
> > Example stacktrace segment:
> >
> > [  262.119564]  handle_percpu_devid_irq+0xb4/0x348
> > [  262.119913]  handle_irq_desc+0x3c/0x68
> > [  262.120196]  generic_handle_domain_irq+0x20/0x40
> > [  262.120678]  gic_handle_irq+0x48/0xe0
> > [  262.121005]  call_on_irq_stack+0x30/0x48
> > [  262.121412]  do_interrupt_handler+0x88/0xa0
> > [  262.121779]  el1_interrupt+0x38/0x58
> > [  262.122089]  el1h_64_irq_handler+0x18/0x30
> > [  262.122617]  el1h_64_irq+0x6c/0x70
>
> The segment immediately above can be unwound using FP, as frame records
> were created consistently, and there are no exception boundaries. No CFI
> needed.

Ah right -- with the logic in stacktrace.c changed to use SFrame only
when recovering the next frame from a pt_regs, the FP alone is
sufficient if we know these entry functions won't take an exception.
This patch was originally implemented with an SFrame-only unwinder in
mind, so my mental model still hadn't back-propagated the new logic to
this patch :)

>
> It's legitimate to take an exception from parts of call_on_irq_stack(),
> so it makes sense for that to have CFI, but for the specific unwind
> segment above, CFI isn't necessary.
>
> Everything in the stacktrace segment above was executed *after* HW took
> the exception.
>
> << EXCEPTION BOUNDARY HERE >>
>
> Everything in the stacktrace segment(s) below was executed *before* HW
> took the exception.
>
> The unwinder knows that it has crossed this exception boundary by virtue
> of finding a FRAME_META_TYPE_PT_REGS frame record.
>
> > [  262.123159]  _raw_spin_unlock_irq+0x10/0x60 (P)
>
> The unwinder knows that the value of pt_regs::pc was *definitely* the PC
> at the time the exception was taken, so that entry is reliable. No CFI
> needed.
>
> > [  262.123720]  __filemap_add_folio+0x200/0x580 (L)
>
> The unwinder doesn't know whether the LR should be used, and needs CFI
> to determine that.
>
> After this point, an FP unwind can be used until we encounter the next
> exception boundary.

Right, and this is what is implemented in the final patch of this series.

>
> > [  262.124145]  filemap_add_folio+0xec/0x300
> > [  262.124674]  page_cache_ra_unbounded+0x128/0x368
> > [  262.125338]  do_page_cache_ra+0x70/0x98
> > [  262.125875]  page_cache_ra_order+0x460/0x4e0
>
> The segment immediately above can be unwound using FP. No CFI needed.
>
> > Here, el1h_64_irq is the last function that appears in the exception
> > stack before _raw_spin_unlock_irq and __filemap_add_folio are
> > recovered from the saved PC and LR, respectively. So we therefore need
> > the CFI annotations in order to unwind through the full exception
> > boundary.
> >
> > Is my interpretation here correct?
>
> Given you say "full exception boundary" here, I think we might be using
> the term "exception boundary" to mean different things.
>
> As per the example above, I'm using "exception boundary" to mean the a
> point between two entries in the stacktrace where HW took an exception.
>
> Did my comments on the example help?

I admit I may have been using the term "exception boundary" with a
vague definition, which was partly the source of my confusion. Thanks
for the example, it did help.

>
> > > > and irq entries through call_on_irq_stack()
> > >
> > > Needing some sort of unwind annotations for call_on_irq_stack() makes
> > > sense to me, but don't we need something for other assembly functions
> > > too?
> > >
> > > We can interrupt things like memset(); I assume we'll treat those as
> > > unreliable until annotated?
> >
> > While looking into adding these annotations, I noticed a pattern where
> > a sibling call is made to a local function:
> >
> > SYM_FUNC_START(__pi_memset)
> > alternative_if_not ARM64_HAS_MOPS
> >         b       __pi_memset_generic
> > alternative_else_nop_endif
> >
> >         mov     dst, dstin
> >         setp    [dst]!, count!, val_x
> >         setm    [dst]!, count!, val_x
> >         sete    [dst]!, count!, val_x
> >         ret
> > SYM_FUNC_END(__pi_memset)
> >
> > In this case, do we consider the stacktrace unreliable since
> > __pi_memset may not appear in the trace?
>
> This is a tail-call, and __pi_memset_generic() will not return to
> __pi_memset(). Once the branch to __pi_memset_generic() has been
> executed, it's fine for __pi_memset() to not show up in the trace.
>
> The key thing is that no more instructions from __pi_memset() itself
> will be executed unless it was called again (from its entry point).
>
> > Or is this not important because assembly functions cannot be directly
> > livepatched anyway?
>
> To the best of my knowledge, reliable stacktrace is only used to
> determine whether any thread is still within an old version of a
> patchable function (including where it's within a callee thereof).
>
> I am not aware of a case where we'd need to detect whether a thread is
> still within a non-patchable function, but I can't rule out that as a
> possibility.
>
> That's more of a question for the livepatching maintainers.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.

Thanks,
Dylan
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