Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fix forward()/expires() racing with concurrent arming
Andreas Hindborg <[email protected]>
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"Gary Guo" <[email protected]> writes: > On Thu Aug 13, 2026 at 2:48 PM BST, FUJITA Tomonori wrote: >> From: FUJITA Tomonori <[email protected]> >> >> This series started from the review of patches 3 and 4 [1]: a hrtimer >> can be armed from any CPU at any time, including while its callback >> runs, so restricting HrTimer::expires() to the callback context is not >> by itself enough to remove the race. >> >> It turned out that expires() is not the only problem. A callback may >> also change its expiry time with hrtimer_forward(), which is sound >> only because __run_hrtimer() dequeues the timer for the duration of >> the callback. Arming the same timer from another CPU puts it back into >> the rbtree while the callback runs, so hrtimer_forward() then changes >> the expiry of a timer that is queued, without the base lock and >> without re-checking the ordering, which leaves the tree unsorted. >> >> Two of the four pointer types cannot construct that >> situation. Starting a Pin<Box<T, A>> moves the box into the handle, >> and starting a Pin<&mut T> consumes the exclusive borrow, so in both >> cases nothing is left to arm the timer with. Arc<T> is Clone and >> Pin<&T> is Copy, and both of their start functions are reachable from >> safe code, so safe Rust could arm a timer whose callback was running. >> >> "No arming while the callback runs" cannot be expressed in the type >> system, because the callback begins when the timer expires rather than >> at any point in the Rust program, so patches 1 and 2 use the stronger >> "no arming while armed" instead. hrtimer_cancel() waits for the >> handler to return, which makes that the point where the right to arm >> can be handed back. The right to arm is split out of Arc<T> into >> HrTimerArc<T> and out of Pin<&T> into HrTimerPin<'a, T>, both >> non-clonable and consumed by start, modelled on ListArc; the object >> itself stays shareable through plain Arc references and shared pinned >> references respectively. >> >> Patches 3 and 4 are the previously posted expires() and >> repr(transparent) patches, unchanged. With patches 1 and 2 in place, >> the callback context has no concurrent writer of node.expires. So >> HrTimerCallbackContext::expires() is sound. > > I am thinking about this and I wonder about a different approach: the only > reason that we're having this issue, is that `expires()` call and > `forward`/`forward_now` is executed outside the protection of the base lock. > > The fix is easy -- to ensure that they are executed with the base lock held. > The callback wants either: > * Do not restart the timer > * Call hrtimer_forward[_now] and restart the timer > > So, if we change the order from > > unlock base > restart = fn(timer) > lock base > if restart { > queue > } > > to > > get expires > unlock base > restart = fn(timer, expires) > lock base > match restart { > Restart(now, interval) => { > hrtimer_forward(timer, now, interval); > queue > } > NoRestart => (), > } > > then we completely eradicate this issue. > > Alternatively, we can add another spinlock to protect `expires` from race > condition from within callback and concurrent restart -- that is what perf core > does: perf_mux_hrtimer_handler and perf_mux_hrtimer_restart uses the same > hrtimer_lock to prevent race. With this solution we would have to restrict calls to `forward` and `expires`. Maybe that would be OK, but it would be restricting the API further. As I understand the problem space, we have (on Rust side): - `start` and `forward` may race. `forward` is callable on exclusive reference to HrTimer or in callback context, but otherwise lacks synchronization. `start` is serialized on the base lock but is callable at any time. - `start` and `expires` may race because `start` writes the expiration and `expires` reads it. The latter has no synchronization and is callable on shared reference to `HrTimer`. - `forward` and `expires` may race because `HrTimer::expires` takes a shared reference and is callable at any time concurrently. I think the solution suggested by Tomo is OK, but we could also add synchronization to `start`, `forward` and `expires` on the rust side. Would that not solve the problem for us? This way we can still run the handler without lock. Only if we call `forward` or read the expiry in the handler would we take the lock. This would allow the API as originally described on the rust side. Best regards, Andreas Hindborg