Re: [PATCH] mm/huge_memory: transfer the pmd dirty bit to the folio on zap
Pedro Falcato <[email protected]>
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2026 at 12:53:34AM +0800, Lance Yang wrote: > > >For some context: we were discussing (off-list) the recent report that > >systemd-journald had horrible write amplification, worsed quite a bit > >by large folios. At the moment, there is quite a lot of write amplification, > >but _only_ on mmap writes (if you look at the write(2) paths, you'll see > >write_begin and write_end which tactically only dirty what you actually wrote > >to, block-wise in the BHs or iomap IFS). This doesn't need to be true. > > > >What we conjured up was the following: since WP faults always happen on PTEs, > >you can simply dirty the block(s) corresponding to that particular PTE (which > >naturally points to a page inside the folio, whether it is large or not, doesn't > >matter). That way, you can avoid fully dirtying the folio's blocks. This is > >something that ATM isn't done by any filesystem, but it really should. > > > >Obviously this whole idea is thwarted if we keep writable shared file folios > >PMD-mapped - you can't get meaningful write notifications apart from "someone > >wrote to this folio", which isn't particularly useful once folios get 2M+ large. > >So PMD-mapping on a shared-write fault is antithetical to getting useful, > >granular write notifications to filesystems. > > Just checking I got it right ... for a PMD-order file folio: > > read-only mapping -> PMD-mapped > writable mapping -> PTE-mapped > > Then ->page_mkwrite() could dirty only blocks corresponding to faulting > PTE, avoiding whole-folio write amplification. Yes. To be clear, when I said "mapping" I meant "page table (PTE/PMD) entry". So something like an mmap(PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED) could have PMD-mapped folios, until you actually wrote to them (otherwise they're wp'd and huge-PMD-mapped). -- Pedro