Re: Core Toolchain Infrastructure - October 2024 update

On 2024-10-30 11:45, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Hi Carlos,
> 
> On Wed, 2024-10-30 at 08:32 -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> I can get down to specific requirements and possible solutions for 
>> them, including
>> things like securing logins with 2FA etc. Which *could* be solved by 
>> Sourceware
>> today possibly using Nitrokeys (open hardware and FOSS), for example.
> 
> Yes, a nitrokey distribution scheme is part of the Secure Sourceware
> Project Goals: https://sourceware.org/sourceware-security-vision.html
> 
> We discussed this with OpenSSF and submitted a funding request to
> OpenSSF Alpha Omega for this particular part. OpenSSF initially was
> supportive to funding these kinds of security plans, but they have been
> silent for the last couple of months. If you have contacts to get this
> going forward again that would be great.
> 
>> Having all the details spelled out would allow Sourceware to make 
>> progress on the
>> same issues raised, and I can even file infrastructure bugs if that 
>> helps.
> 
> Yes, please file bugzilla reports against the Sourceware Infrastructure
> project:
> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?product=sourceware&component=Infrastructure
> Or bring it up on the overseers list or during the Sourceware open
> office hours. https://sourceware.org/mission.html#organization
> 
>> My deepest concerns here is that Sourceware PLC cannot convince larger 
>> sponsors
>> to provide the funding to do what needs to be done to scale out and 
>> improve our
>> services.
> 
> Thanks for your concern. The whole idea of setting up Sourceware as an
> organization with Conservancy as a fiscal sponsor is precisely to make
> these kind of sponsorships easy. And to expand funding to be able to
> accept community donations and grants:
> https://sourceware.org/donate.html

Yes, SFC is already set up to receive donations from most of the large 
companies that are consistent funders in this space (we're registered in 
their vendor systems). Similarly, we regularly have fundraising meetings 
with them across our member projects. If you have a particular lead or 
suggestion for Sourceware, please let me/us know and we'll follow up!

karen



> 
> 
>> I'm excited that the GNU Toolchain community is looking at different 
>> workflows and
>> solutions, but if I'm honest the same question of funding and 
>> service/workload
>> isolation applies.
>> 
>> I'm *more* excited to pay Codeberg directly to support the GNU 
>> Toolchain to support
>> the development of Forgejo, particularly given that larger groups like 
>> Fedora are
>> considering Forgejo.
> 
> Yes, we did already discuss this. But it is too early for that. Richard
> setup a wiki page for the Forge Experiment that includes a list of
> various bugs/issues in Forgejo that we would like to see resolved
> before we can call the experiment an success.
> https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/ForgeExperiment
> When we are a bit further into the experiment to know which ones are
> real blockers, we could fund the work to get those done.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mark