Re: [mlmmj] Problem with mail sent by @orange.fr to @protonmail.com

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I must admit I've seen this behavior also; it is a troubling issue to 
track down, and it reduces the trust list-members have (approx 150) that 
everyone is receiving all the email posts.

I have been using mlmmj for many years, and I'm grateful for all the 
recent work being done!

Having said that, I haven't yet updated my installations as I've been 
waiting for a stable release - I'm optimistic that will be soon, and I 
hope it will address this issue for my participants.

Thank you all!

Philip

On 11/27/2023 5:25 AM, Pierre Cros wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> I installed mlmmj (via iRedMail) on Debian Bookworm.
>
> It works well even for the pretty bad admin I am. But I don't know 
> where to look to understand the following problem :
>
>   * My list works well for all users most of the time
>   * When a sender uses orange.fr SMTP to send a mail on this list, the
>     subscribers with @protonmail.com adresses won't get the mail at
>     all (not even in the spams), the other subscribers will receive it.
>   * if some @orange.fr sender, sends a mail directly (without the
>     list) to some @protonmail.com receiver, it works
>
> It looks like mlmmj adds something that will make mails sent by 
> orange.fr unacceptable for @protonmail.com mail serveur.
>
> Any idea where I should look ? Thank you
>
> Pierre
>
>
> Envoyé avec la messagerie sécurisée Proton Mail. <https://proton.me/>

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    <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I must admit I've seen
      this behavior also; it is a troubling issue to track down, and it
      reduces the trust list-members have (approx 150) that everyone is
      receiving all the email posts.<br>
      <br>
      I have been using mlmmj for many years, and I'm grateful for all
      the recent work being done!<br>
      <br>
      Having said that, I haven't yet updated my installations as I've
      been waiting for a stable release - I'm optimistic that will be
      soon, and I hope it will address this issue for my participants.<br>
      <br>
      Thank you all!<br>
      <br>
      Philip<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/27/2023 5:25 AM, Pierre Cros
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:2shIYpcGYGDjX-CmJQn6qMG7Hcji--MPqGFEcZUWEfWhzTaiQ28M7Y0h9LrCZcAANJ4D4eUTK2PQBgUBCsGKjPgIcz2caiqDEjrckCNF-dU=@protonmail.com">
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      <div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Hello
        there,</div>
      <div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
      </div>
      <div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">I
        installed mlmmj (via iRedMail) on Debian Bookworm.</div>
      <div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
      </div>
      <div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">It
        works well even for the pretty bad admin I am. But I don't know
        where to look to understand the following problem :</div>
      <div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">
        <ul
data-editing-info="{&quot;orderedStyleType&quot;:1,&quot;unorderedStyleType&quot;:1}">
          <li style="list-style-type: disc;"><span>My list works well
              for all users most of the time</span></li>
          <li style="list-style-type: disc;"><span>When a sender uses
              orange.fr SMTP to send a mail on this list, the
              subscribers with @protonmail.com adresses won't get the
              mail at all (not even in the spams), the other subscribers
              will receive it.</span></li>
          <li style="list-style-type: disc;"><span>if some @orange.fr
              sender, sends a mail directly (without the list) to some
              @protonmail.com receiver, it works<br>
            </span></li>
        </ul>
        <div>It looks like mlmmj adds something that will make mails
          sent by orange.fr unacceptable for @protonmail.com mail
          serveur.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Any idea where I should look ? Thank you</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Pierre<br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
      </div>
      <div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
      </div>
      <div class="protonmail_signature_block"
        style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">
        <div
class="protonmail_signature_block-user protonmail_signature_block-empty">
        </div>
        <div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton"> Envoyé avec la
          messagerie sécurisée <a target="_blank"
            href="https://proton.me/" rel="noopener noreferrer"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Proton Mail.</a> </div>
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