Re: [PATCH] qga: Do not follow symlink in guest-ssh-* commands

Daniel P. Berrangé <[email protected]>
Newsgroups org.nongnu.qemu-devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 12:33:39PM +0300, Kostiantyn Kostiuk wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 12:28 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 11:58:44AM +0300, Kostiantyn Kostiuk wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 11:55 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <[email protected]
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 11:37:34AM +0300, Kostiantyn Kostiuk wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 11:20 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <
> > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 11:06:27AM +0300, Kostiantyn Kostiuk wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Valentino,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry for the long delay.
> > > > > > > I have a question for you
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 7:10 PM Valentino Paulon <
> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So, you propose to call seteuid/setegid before any I/O
> > > > operation?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, specifically for the SSH commands, because they're
> > unusual
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > > that we're doing stuff on behalf of an unprivileged user.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1 on the euid/egid direction -- as the reporter that's the
> > > > outcome I
> > > > > > > > was hoping for. It confines every step (read, mkdir, create,
> > > > rename,
> > > > > > > > chown) to what the target user could already do himself, which
> > > > removes
> > > > > > > > the whole TOCTOU class instead of chasing one instance of it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A few implementation details that tend to bite with this
> > pattern,
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > case they save a round-trip:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - drop the supplementary groups too, not just egid:
> > initgroups()
> > > > (or
> > > > > > > > setgroups() with the user's list) while still root, otherwise
> > the
> > > > > > > > agent's effective access won't match the user's in either
> > direction
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Technically, there is no limitation to running QGA in
> > unprivileged
> > > > mode.
> > > > > > > Normally, it is a system daemon, but this is not mandatory.
> > > > > > > In this case, we can not call initgroups because the caller must
> > > > > > > have CAP_SETGID.
> > > > > > > We can call initgroups only when QGA runs as root. What do you
> > think?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In any practical sense it is a system daemon given the set of
> > commands
> > > > > > it is exposing. Thus, IMHO, deploying as an unprivileged user
> > should
> > > > > > be considered a broken deployment. We could make that explicit by
> > > > > > refusing to launch.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Makes sense, but we have one more issue with QGA unit tests in this
> > case.
> > > > > They are called by an unprivileged user (build user), and initgroups
> > > > broke
> > > > > it.
> > > > > Is it possible to enter the namespace automatically by the test
> > engine?
> > > >
> > > > We can't assume that is possible todo in all build/test environments.
> > > >
> > > > Doing things as different user accounts feels pretty dubious for the
> > > > scope of a unit test too - that is really functional or integration
> > > > testing.
> > > >
> > > > Can we somehow restructure the tests and/or agent code to avoid the
> > > > changing groups stuff in unit tests.
> > > >
> > >
> > > There are two possible options:
> > > 1. add #ifdef QGA_BUILD_UNIT_TEST into qmp_guest_ssh_* functions
> > > 2. check the current uid and skip initgroups if it is zero (my initial
> > > question)
> >
> > Surely you mean "if it is non-zero" here, as it is with uid!=0 that
> > the UID changes will fail.
> >
> 
> yes. So what sounds better: "ifdef" or "uid!=0"?

I'd be inclined to #ifdef so we know it doesn't affect production
deployments, only tests.


With regards,
Daniel
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