Re: The Case for a New Site for Perl Beginners

[email protected] (Shlomi Fish)
Newsgroups perl.advocacy
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Wednesday 30 August 2006 01:32, Aleksandar Petrovic wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:27:00 +0200, Wiggins d'Anconia
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > It really does seem like he just wants the learn.perl.org domain to
> > point to the site he created. Of course this is the web, and if the
> > content is that good it really doesn't matter what domain you have.
> >
> > Check the archives....
> >
> > http://danconia.org
>
> I think that all three sites (perlmeme.org/, learn.perl.org and
> perl-begin.berlios.de/) look like most of the sites back when I had an
> Amiga 1200 :eek:

Hmmm... interesting. Personally, I think that perlmeme.org does not look very 
bad. In any case, I'm well aware of the problematic design of 
perl-begin.berlios.de. At the moment, I'm looking for another design to rip 
(perhaps a skin of a popular open-source CMS, or CSS Zen Garden, or OSWD). 
However, if anyone can refer me to a professional web designer who will come 
up with an original design, that would be even better.

>
> You can pick just about any website of any other "web" programming
> language and it's much much better. Not just from design point, but more
> importantly content.
>

What content do you think is missing?

> Perl needs better marketing/PR. And beside sites for beginers it needs
> better  advocation to business type people.
>

Right.

> It also has lot's of misconceptions behind it - that should also be
> addressed. Stuff like scripting language, slow, perl = cgi, cobol of the
> web ...
>

Or write-only code, etc. I recall an article about "Perl Myths" on perl.com 
back then:

http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2000/01/10PerlMyths.html

> Now instead of insulting each other, maybe we can actualy start doing
> something about it in a more productive way?

That was my original intention.

>
> BTW. Is there anyone on this list who is familiar with Public Relations?
>

I only attended a presentation on "The Hacker's Guide to Marketing".

> PS. Don't get me wrong - there is much more to Perl than just web
> programmig, but it's one of it's bigest markets - also the one that
> brougth worlds attention to it.

OK.

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

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