Fwd: Sony support uses Perl

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I disagree that your example discounts my point -- downloading Perl is not
the same thing as building your online support system with it and not only
leaving the .pl extension on your pages but leaving /perl/ in the URI.  The
latter publicly says, 'hey, by the way...we use Perl and we rely on it for
something that we consider to be fairly important' versus the fore which
could mean virtually anything (evaluation, installation scripts, etc.).

I think the difference here is significant. Is it enough that people and
companies are using Perl and not talking about it, or should they be clear
that they use it and rely upon it?  Isn't it in the interests of Perl
advocacy to present evidence that Perl is not just used but that it is
relied upon and can handle more system administration tasks?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jan Dubois <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: Sony support uses Perl
To: Joel Limardo <[email protected]>, [email protected]


It is kind of pointless to keep track of it, as virtually **everyone** is
using Perl somewhere for something.



A few years ago somebody analyzed the download logs for ActivePerl with
reverse DNS lookup and matched it against the Fortune 1000 companies domain
names.  I don=92t remember the exact number but around 90% of them had
downloaded ActivePerl at least once from an IP address owned by those
companies.



Cheers,

-Jan



*From:* Joel Limardo [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Friday, August 13, 2010 9:55 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Sony support uses Perl



Do we keep a list of current companies that are using Perl anywhere?  I jus=
t
noticed that Sony Support appears to be using Perl:



http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-home.pl?mdl=3DHIDC10

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ntal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">I disagree that y=
our example discounts my point -- downloading Perl is not the same thing as=
 building your online support system with it and not only leaving the .pl e=
xtension on your pages but leaving /perl/ in the URI. =A0The latter publicl=
y says, &#39;hey, by the way...we use Perl and we rely on it for something =
that we consider to be fairly important&#39; versus the fore which could me=
an virtually anything (evaluation, installation scripts, etc.).</span></fon=
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s=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-h=
orizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">I think the =
difference here is significant. Is it enough that people and companies are =
using Perl and not talking about it, or should they be clear that they use =
it and rely upon it? =A0Isn&#39;t it in the interests of Perl advocacy to p=
resent evidence that Perl is not just used but that it is relied upon and c=
an handle more system administration tasks?=A0<br>
</span></font><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message -=
---------<br>From: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Jan Dubois</b> <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
a>&gt;</span><br>
Date: Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:11 PM<br>Subject: RE: Sony support uses Perl<=
br>To: Joel Limardo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">jo=
[email protected]</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">a=
[email protected]</a><br>
<br><br><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">It is kind of po=
intless to keep track of it, as virtually *<b>everyone</b>* is using Perl s=
omewhere for something.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F49=
7D">A few years ago somebody analyzed the download logs for ActivePerl with=
 reverse DNS lookup and matched it against the Fortune 1000 companies domai=
n names.=A0 I don=92t remember the exact number but around 90% of them had =
downloaded ActivePerl at least once from an IP address owned by those compa=
nies.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F49=
7D">Cheers,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0p=
t;color:#1F497D">-Jan</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</=
span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"> Joel Limardo [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:jo=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]=
m</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 13, 2010 9:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br><b>Subject:=
</b> Sony support uses Perl</span></p></div></div><div class=3D"im"><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">
=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Do we keep a list of current companies that a=
re using Perl anywhere? =A0I just noticed that Sony Support appears to be u=
sing Perl: </p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">
<a href=3D"http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-home.pl?mdl=3DHIDC10" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-home.pl?mdl=3DHIDC10<=
/a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br><br>
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