Let's talk about all the matrices we have

[email protected] (Scott Baker) Thu, 22 May 2025 10:58:32 -0700
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CPT Folks:

The "primary" interface people use for CPAN Testers is the column matrix 
view that shows configurations and test status. Currently we have three 
matrices:

  * http://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Random-Simple%200.24
  * http://fast-matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Random-Simple%200.24
  * https://fast2-matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Random-Simple+0.24

The plethora of matrices sprung up from a time when the CPT web API was 
not as reliable or fast. Earlier today matrix was spinning, while the 
other two were working. A regular user will not understand the 
intricacies of each one. What domain should a new user be using in 2025? 
FWIW the "testers" section of MetaCPAN links to fast2 which seems to be 
the most reliable currently.

I believe all three of these are run by Slaven and hosted on his 
personal infrastructure in Germany? Is it worth maintaining three 
separate matrices? Should we consolidate down t one? Slaven are you OK 
hosting your matrixes yourself?

To add slightly more confusion to this discussion I've been working on 
Perl-Magpie with Ruth that offers a modern matrix view for CPT data also:

  * https://matrix.perl-magpie.org/dist.php?dist=Random-Simple

The goal for Magpie was to be super fast, and independent from CPT. 
Magpie is a caching frontend for CPT and should work just fine even if 
CPT is not accessible. Magpie pulls data using the CPT API, which it 
then caches locally in PostgreSQL. This has the potential to reduce some 
of the load on the CPT web servers because test results are served 
locally. The primary usage of the CPT webservers is serving the textual 
report content to users. This amounts to about 11 hits per second on the 
primary web server.

Doug was working on getting the daily CPT emails working again. My 
primary introduction to CPT was those emails, so I want to make sure 
we're directing those people to the most reliable CPT we can. Same thing 
with the linkage on MetaCPAN.

What matrix are you using today?

-- Scottchiefbaker

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    <p>CPT Folks:</p>
    <p>The "primary" interface people use for CPAN Testers is the column
      matrix view that shows configurations and test status. Currently
      we have three matrices:</p>
    <ul>
      <li><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Random-Simple%200.24">http://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Random-Simple%200.24</a></li>
      <li><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fast-matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Random-Simple%200.24">http://fast-matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Random-Simple%200.24</a></li>
      <li><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://fast2-matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Random-Simple+0.24">https://fast2-matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Random-Simple+0.24</a></li>
    </ul>
    <p>The plethora of matrices sprung up from a time when the CPT web
      API was not as reliable or fast. Earlier today matrix was
      spinning, while the other two were working. A regular user will
      not understand the intricacies of each one. What domain should a
      new user be using in 2025? FWIW the "testers" section of MetaCPAN
      links to fast2 which seems to be the most reliable currently.</p>
    <p>I believe all three of these are run by Slaven and hosted on his
      personal infrastructure in Germany? Is it worth maintaining three
      separate matrices? Should we consolidate down t one? Slaven are
      you OK hosting your matrixes yourself?<br>
    </p>
    <p>To add slightly more confusion to this discussion I've been
      working on Perl-Magpie with Ruth that offers a modern matrix view
      for CPT data also:</p>
    <ul>
      <li><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://matrix.perl-magpie.org/dist.php?dist=Random-Simple">https://matrix.perl-magpie.org/dist.php?dist=Random-Simple</a></li>
    </ul>
    <p>The goal for Magpie was to be super fast, and independent from
      CPT. Magpie is a caching frontend for CPT and should work just
      fine even if CPT is not accessible. Magpie pulls data using the
      CPT API, which it then caches locally in PostgreSQL. This has the
      potential to reduce some of the load on the CPT web servers
      because test results are served locally. The primary usage of the
      CPT webservers is serving the textual report content to users.
      This amounts to about 11 hits per second on the primary web
      server.</p>
    <p>Doug was working on getting the daily CPT emails working again.
      My primary introduction to CPT was those emails, so I want to make
      sure we're directing those people to the most reliable CPT we can.
      Same thing with the linkage on MetaCPAN.</p>
    <p>What matrix are you using today?<br>
    </p>
    <p>-- Scottchiefbaker<br>
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