Re: sponsor logo on home of CPAN mirror

[email protected] (Elaine Ashton) Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:58:37 +0200
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> On Dec 31, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Henk P. Penning <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  I agree ; I just don't like the current rules, which suggest users
>  tamper with "/index.html". I want clean rules and a clean method
>  when dealing with (prospective) mirrors.
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>  I can find only one site that adds a logo ; and it gets it wrong :
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>    http://mirror.easyname.at/cpan/
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>  ... and then there is crap like :
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>    http://mirror.datacenter.by/pub/CPAN/
>    http://mirrors.sohu.com/CPAN/
>    http://mirror.netcologne.de/cpan/
>    http://cpan.mirror.euserv.net/
>    http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/CPAN/
>    http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/CPAN/
>    http://mirror.faraso.org/CPAN/
>    http://ftp.nluug.nl/languages/perl/CPAN/
>    http://cpan.mirror.anlx.net/ [yellowbot ??]
>    =E2=80=A6

Hi Henk, and HNY to you all. :)

I agree about the index.html and, though there are some who fumble their =
way through adding their =E2=80=98identity=E2=80=99 to their mirrors, =
there have always been those so improving guidance may or may not make =
much of an impact in preventing similar fumbling in the future=E2=80=A6tho=
ugh I won=E2=80=99t discourage trying to improve the situation, however =
futile it might be.

>=20
>  Well, the number of mirror sites has been dropping steadily,
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>    http://mirrors.cpan.org/stats/hist/
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>  compensated by 36 metacpan mirrors (CDN). Universities are
>  giving up ; managers are cutting costs for non-essential stuff.
>  Perhaps a logo here and there is enough to keep mirrors online.

I=E2=80=99m starting to feel like an old lady as, though I railed at the =
first advertisers on the web over 30 years ago, knowing even then that =
they would eventually pervade every website, I=E2=80=99d like to think =
that some sites should remain above what may be viewed as the =
inevitable, but which I continue to hope can remain ad-free without =
going down what Robert referred to as =E2=80=98a slippery slope.=E2=80=99=20=


The number of mirrors is less of a concern than the quality and duration =
of service thereof. Perhaps a short google forms-ish survey could be =
circulated to the mirrors to determine what is causing them to rethink =
their mirroring service to CPAN? What about a Perl.org =
<http://perl.org/> page featuring the logos of all the mirrors who wish =
to be represented? Just an idea or two as, though I know I=E2=80=99m a =
fossil at this point, I hope that the mirrors can remain as =
indistinguishable from the master and without advertising as long as =
possible.

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class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Dec 31, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Henk P. Penning &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;I =
agree ; I just don't like the current rules, which suggest users<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;tamper with "/index.html". I want clean rules and a =
clean method<br class=3D""> &nbsp;when dealing with (prospective) =
mirrors.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;I can find only one site =
that adds a logo ; and it gets it wrong :<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://mirror.easyname.at/cpan/" =
class=3D"">http://mirror.easyname.at/cpan/</a><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;... and then there is crap like :<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://mirror.datacenter.by/pub/CPAN/" =
class=3D"">http://mirror.datacenter.by/pub/CPAN/</a><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://mirrors.sohu.com/CPAN/" =
class=3D"">http://mirrors.sohu.com/CPAN/</a><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://mirror.netcologne.de/cpan/" =
class=3D"">http://mirror.netcologne.de/cpan/</a><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://cpan.mirror.euserv.net/" =
class=3D"">http://cpan.mirror.euserv.net/</a><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/CPAN/" =
class=3D"">http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/CPAN/</a><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/CPAN/" =
class=3D"">http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/CPAN/</a><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://mirror.faraso.org/CPAN/" =
class=3D"">http://mirror.faraso.org/CPAN/</a><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://ftp.nluug.nl/languages/perl/CPAN/" =
class=3D"">http://ftp.nluug.nl/languages/perl/CPAN/</a><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://cpan.mirror.anlx.net/" =
class=3D"">http://cpan.mirror.anlx.net/</a> [yellowbot ??]<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=E2=80=A6</div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>Hi Henk, and HNY to you all. :)</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>I agree about the index.html and, though there are =
some who fumble their way through adding their =E2=80=98identity=E2=80=99 =
to their mirrors, there have always been those so improving guidance may =
or may not make much of an impact in preventing similar fumbling in the =
future=E2=80=A6though I won=E2=80=99t discourage trying to improve the =
situation, however futile it might be.</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;Well, the number of mirror sites has =
been dropping steadily,<br class=3D""><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://mirrors.cpan.org/stats/hist/" =
class=3D"">http://mirrors.cpan.org/stats/hist/</a><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;compensated by 36 metacpan mirrors (CDN). Universities =
are<br class=3D""> &nbsp;giving up ; managers are cutting costs for =
non-essential stuff.<br class=3D""> &nbsp;Perhaps a logo here and there =
is enough to keep mirrors online.</div></div></blockquote><br =
class=3D""></div><div>I=E2=80=99m starting to feel like an old lady as, =
though I railed at the first advertisers on the web over 30 years ago, =
knowing even then that they would eventually pervade every website, =
I=E2=80=99d like to think that some sites should remain above what may =
be viewed as the inevitable, but which I continue to hope can remain =
ad-free without going down what Robert referred to as =E2=80=98a =
slippery slope.=E2=80=99&nbsp;</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>The =
number of mirrors is less of a concern than the quality and duration of =
service thereof. Perhaps a short google forms-ish survey could be =
circulated to the mirrors to determine what is causing them to rethink =
their mirroring service to CPAN? What about a <a href=3D"http://Perl.org" =
class=3D"">Perl.org</a>&nbsp;page featuring the logos of all the mirrors =
who wish to be represented? Just an idea or two as, though I know I=E2=80=99=
m a fossil at this point, I hope that the mirrors can remain as =
indistinguishable from the master and without advertising as long as =
possible.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>e.</div><div class=3D"">
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