Re: sponsor logo on home of CPAN mirror
[email protected] (Elaine Ashton) Mon, 01 Jan 2018 19:57:02 +0200
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--Apple-Mail=_B20DAFD3-E8AE-4CA1-9680-A818F4F48BEE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jan 1, 2018, at 5:20 PM, Henk P. Penning <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > I don't understand the "slippery slope". > Where is the "slope", and why is it "slippery" ? > -- the "how to add a sponsor logo/link" has been around for years > -- CPAN's home-page already uses javascript > How is adding 1 javascript function and 1 empty <span> a problem? > How is it worse than suggesting to users to tinker with /index.html? I think the =E2=80=98slope=E2=80=99, from a syseng perspective is trying = to solve a problem we don=E2=80=99t quite understand which may have far = reaching consequences we may not want. I think the saying in programming = is akin to =E2=80=98patch one bug and create two new ones.=E2=80=99 ;)=20= We have always acknowledged the master mirrors, including funet.fi = <http://funet.fi/>, which was a state/edu network who never requested = such recognition. Even when I ran search.cpan out of WashU and Webster = U, neither University requested recognition, nor complained about the = resource load, which was rather substantial, especially since the = hardware was donated and we all volunteered our time to maintain it. = Hardware, storage and network resources have become less expensive in = the 20 years since that time.=20 I suppose my point is that, if your concern is that the number of = mirrors is declining, the problem may be not as simple as offering sites = an opportunity to add a logo, which may later lead to a demand for = advertising, which is where the =E2=80=98slippery slope=E2=80=99 comes = in (at least for me). Understanding the reasons why mirrors are leaving = and/or doing so in shorter periods of time may lead to a better = understanding and solution than the current suggestion. Not that anyone gives a fuck about what I think these days, but I=E2=80=99= m still good at what I do and I try to offer what I can when I think = there might be a better way of doing something, however well intended it = might be. :) e. -- -=3D]) elaine ashton // [email protected] // HFB ([=3D- -=3D]) That's the difference between governments and ([=3D-=20 -=3D]) individuals. Governments don't care, individuals do. - Mark = Twain ([=3D-=20 --Apple-Mail=_B20DAFD3-E8AE-4CA1-9680-A818F4F48BEE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><br = class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On Jan 1, 2018, at 5:20 PM, Henk P. Penning <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:</div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""> I = don't understand the "slippery slope".<br class=3D""> Where = is the "slope", and why is it "slippery" ?<br class=3D""> -- the = "how to add a sponsor logo/link" has been around for years<br class=3D""> = -- CPAN's home-page already uses javascript<br class=3D""> = How is adding 1 javascript function and 1 empty <span> a = problem?<br class=3D""> How is it worse than suggesting to users = to tinker with /index.html?<br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div>I think = the =E2=80=98slope=E2=80=99, from a syseng perspective is trying to = solve a problem we don=E2=80=99t quite understand which may have far = reaching consequences we may not want. I think the saying in programming = is akin to =E2=80=98patch one bug and create two new ones.=E2=80=99 = ;) </div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>We have always acknowledged = the master mirrors, including <a href=3D"http://funet.fi" = class=3D"">funet.fi</a>, which was a state/edu network who never = requested such recognition. Even when I ran search.cpan out of WashU and = Webster U, neither University requested recognition, nor complained = about the resource load, which was rather substantial, especially since = the hardware was donated and we all volunteered our time to maintain it. = Hardware, storage and network resources have become less expensive in = the 20 years since that time. </div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>I = suppose my point is that, if your concern is that the number of mirrors = is declining, the problem may be not as simple as offering sites an = opportunity to add a logo, which may later lead to a demand for = advertising, which is where the =E2=80=98slippery slope=E2=80=99 comes = in (at least for me). Understanding the reasons why mirrors are leaving = and/or doing so in shorter periods of time may lead to a better = understanding and solution than the current suggestion.</div><div><br = class=3D""></div><div>Not that anyone gives a fuck about what I think = these days, but I=E2=80=99m still good at what I do and I try to offer = what I can when I think there might be a better way of doing something, = however well intended it might be. :)</div><div><br = class=3D""></div><div>e.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D""><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Courier; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;" class=3D"">--</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Courier; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; = orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><div = apple-content-edited=3D"true" class=3D""> = -=3D]) elaine ashton // <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a> // HFB ([=3D-<br class=3D""> = -=3D]) That's the difference between = governments and ([=3D- </div><div apple-content-edited=3D"true" = class=3D""> -=3D]) individuals. Governments don't care, individuals = do. - Mark Twain ([=3D- </div></div> </div> <br class=3D""></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_B20DAFD3-E8AE-4CA1-9680-A818F4F48BEE--