Re: Re-writing Genealogy::Gedcom::Date
[email protected] (Mike Elston) Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:14:08 +0000
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--Apple-Mail-3-180612968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Marcel, I wan't aware that the Russians ever had a different calendar, except = that they continued to use the Julian calendar longer than almost every = other Western country. The Gregorian calendar =97 which simply has a different scheme of leap = years from the old Julian calendar, but the same months, and the same = lengths of the different months =97 was instituted in 1582; England = didn't adopt it until 1751, by which time the Julian calendar was 11 = days out compared to the Gregorian calendar (it was in use in Scotland = before that, which meant that the date was different in England from = what it was in Scotland until 1751!); Russia continued to use the Julian = calendar until 1918, when it converted to the Gregorian calendar, which = was by then used by (nearly) all of the rest of Europe. The numbering of the years has varied too, but that doesn't need to = concern us here. The Russians did have some strange ways of using the calendar (like = 5-day weeks and 6-day weeks between the two World Wars), and a Russian = Revolutionary calendar modelled on the old French one was once proposed = (but rejected), but as far as I know, the dates in the year (the months = and the number of days within them) have always been those of the Julian = or Gregorian calendar. Unless you know different, in which case I will be happy to be = corrected! /mike On 4 Nov 2015, at 11:41, Marcel S. Henselin wrote: > Hey guys >=20 > I am German and I could give some support. Only the French had during = the time of the Revolution a different calendar. So did the Russian. >=20 > German month names are quite easy and nearly the same as in English. = Because of the umlauts the abbreviations have been internationalized. >=20 > March would be M=E4rz and the abbr. would be M=E4r but because other = countries don't have umlauts the Mrz is used. >=20 > Regards=20 > Marcel >=20 > Von meinem Sony Xperia=99-Smartphone gesendet >=20 >=20 >=20 > ---- Ron Savage schrieb ---- >=20 > Hi Mike >=20 > On 14/10/15 21:05, Mike Elston wrote: > > =85 because it's the French _Republican_ Calendar =97 as I'm sure = you all know, they're actually different months from the = Gregorian/Julian months, not just different names for the G/J months. > > > > /m > > > > On 14 Oct 2015, at 10:04, Ron Savage wrote: > > > >> Hi Michael > >> > >> On 14/10/15 15:19, Michael Ionescu wrote: > >> > >>> german_r_month ~ 'jan' | 'feb' | 'm=E4r' | 'maer' | 'mrz' | = 'apr' | 'mai' > >>> | 'jun' | 'jul' | 'aug' | 'sep' | 'sept' | 'okt' > >>> | 'nov' | 'dez' > >> > >> Is there some particular reason you've used 'german_r_month' and = not 'german_month'? >=20 > To repeat my question: These are German /republican/ names, right? >=20 > --=20 > Ron Savage - savage.net.au >=20 --Apple-Mail-3-180612968 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 <html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi = Marcel,<div><br></div><div>I wan't aware that the Russians ever had a = different calendar, except that they continued to use the Julian = calendar longer than almost every other Western = country.</div><div><br></div><div>The Gregorian calendar =97 which = simply has a different scheme of leap years from the old Julian = calendar, but the same months, and the same lengths of the different = months =97 was instituted in 1582; England didn't adopt it until 1751, = by which time the Julian calendar was 11 days out compared to the = Gregorian calendar (it was in use in Scotland before that, which meant = that the date was different in England from what it was in Scotland = until 1751!); Russia continued to use the Julian calendar until 1918, = when it converted to the Gregorian calendar, which was by then used by = (nearly) all of the rest of Europe.</div><div><br></div><div>The = numbering of the years has varied too, but that doesn't need to concern = us here.</div><div><br></div><div>The Russians did have some strange = ways of using the calendar (like 5-day weeks and 6-day weeks between the = two World Wars), and a Russian Revolutionary calendar modelled on the = old French one was once proposed (but rejected), but as far as I know, = the dates in the year (the months and the number of days within them) = have always been those of the Julian or Gregorian = calendar.</div><div><br></div><div>Unless you know different, in which = case I will be happy to be = corrected!</div><div><br></div><div>/mike</div><div><br><div><div>On 4 = Nov 2015, at 11:41, Marcel S. Henselin wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><meta = http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><p = dir=3D"ltr">Hey guys</p><p dir=3D"ltr">I am German and I could give some = support. Only the French had during the time of the Revolution a = different calendar. So did the Russian. </p><p dir=3D"ltr">German month = names are quite easy and nearly the same as in English. Because of the = umlauts the abbreviations have been internationalized. </p><p = dir=3D"ltr">March would be M=E4rz and the abbr. would be M=E4r but = because other countries don't have umlauts the Mrz is used.</p><p = dir=3D"ltr">Regards <br> Marcel</p><p dir=3D"ltr">Von meinem Sony Xperia=99-Smartphone = gesendet</p> <br><br>---- Ron Savage schrieb ----<br><br>Hi Mike<br><br>On 14/10/15 = 21:05, Mike Elston wrote:<br>> =85 because it's the French = _Republican_ Calendar =97 as I'm sure you all know, they're actually = different months from the Gregorian/Julian months, not just different = names for the G/J months.<br>><br>> /m<br>><br>> On 14 Oct = 2015, at 10:04, Ron Savage wrote:<br>><br>>> Hi = Michael<br>>><br>>> On 14/10/15 15:19, Michael Ionescu = wrote:<br>>><br>>>> german_r_month ~ 'jan' | 'feb' = | 'm=E4r' | 'maer' | 'mrz' | 'apr' | 'mai'<br>>>> = | 'jun' | 'jul' | 'aug' | 'sep' | 'sept' | 'okt'<br>>>> = | 'nov' | 'dez'<br>>><br>>> Is there some particular reason = you've used 'german_r_month' and not 'german_month'?<br><br>To repeat my = question: These are German /republican/ names, right?<br><br>-- <br>Ron = Savage - <a = href=3D"http://savage.net.au/">savage.net.au</a><br><br></blockquote></div= ><br></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-3-180612968--