RE: project bidding sites
[email protected] ("Larson Rider") Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:03:18 -0700
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Hi, My business is supplying clients with contract help. The outsourcing phenomena is the number one impediment the Silicon Valley contractor market recovery. I estimate that a full 60% of possible business goes over seas. I don't like to say offshore because it sounds like it's really still here... Good news is that some companies are bringing back teams from India because wage inflation have reduced the perceived savings and that management costs to HIT DEADLINES is greatly hampered by both distance and work culture. The other good thing is that other low cost, high intellect locations like Russia, China, SE Asia, and Eastern Europe are proving to be less attractive. I think this is mainly due to the phenomena of a disproportionate number of Indian origin managers, particularly in the Silicon Valley. Not only is/was there cheap labor, there were managers ALREADY adept with the ins and outs of the country and culture. Wow, I got to use my Poli Sci/Social Science background on this one *grin* All is not doom and gloom folks. True pricing is hard pressed, but anyone who thinks 1998 to 2000 rates were normal is just fooling themselves. Many of us were marveling at how nuts the spending was... At least now there is a market to complain about where as a couple years ago there was no market at all. -----Original Message----- From: Wiggins d'Anconia [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: project bidding sites Terrence Brannon wrote: > [email protected] (Anthony) writes: > > >> all the projects that I would >>charge $500+ for were being bid at $50, by people in russia and india. > > > On slahsdot it was mentioned that over time, as India becomes more > wealthy, the ability to underbid will decrease and Americans/1st > worlders will be on a level palying field once again. > > Sure, that's basic market economics and wealth transfer theory. Of course, economic theory is great until you try to apply it to the real world. I wish I could call my mortgage company and tell them "over *some* time horizon I will definitely pay them back" ;-).... Of course the problem with that is that India isn't the last 3rd world domain, and once we reach that point there is China, the undeveloped part of southeast asia, a whole bunch of russia, and most of africa to worry about (not to mention the midwest ;-)).... Not trying to sound bitter or trying to flame, just putting my hard earned Economics degree to good use finally ;-), and I do agree with the statement. Just pointing out that the problem is with the time horizon, there is none given, this seriously could take 20 years and that is just for India. By the time the 3rd world catches up, I seriously doubt we are going to be concerned with losing jobs to the 3rd world. Just my couple of non-cents, http://danconia.org