Re: Kwiki on Wikipedia

[email protected] (Tim Sweetman) Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:21:27 +0000
Newsgroups perl.kwiki
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Mike808 wrote:
> I did the google search linked:  Personalized Results *1* - *10* of about *
> 532,000* for *Kwiki -site:kwiki.org -CPAN*. (*0.29* seconds)

The great majority of those are junk: data from CPAN, error reports, 
lists of packages.

Where are the articles describing what kwiki is, what kwiki does? There 
are maybe one or two, but they're (a) several years old, and (b) written 
by Ingy.

Stuff about what Kwiki 2.0 is going to do next is original research, and 
shouldn't be on wikipedia. It probably should be on kwiki.org, or 
somewhere...

Hell, what about Ingy's declaration:
 > [from ingy's email, 8/1/2007]
> Kwiki is *not* a zombie. Well maybe it is, but it has started walking
> around again, and is preparing for a major resurrection!
> 
> Kwiki 2.0. It's available now and working well.

... but that's only on the web as email archive, and it's written by 
Ingy! ("Notable" seems to mean "thought notable by people other than its 
creators")

> There may also be an angle into notability due to Ingy's authoring the
> IO::Spiffy modules and numerous public presentations on technologies and
> modules that he's authored. Of which Kwiki is the premier POC for. I would
> agree that they're certainly more notable than a few CGI::Wiki plugin
> modules with limited, niche functionality when compared to frameworks and
> foundation modules that expand the capabilities of the Perl programmer and
> community.

I think that's probably the wrong way up. Lots of computer-literate 
people have some idea what a wiki is, so you can explain to them "kwiki 
is wiki software". Wiki software that is in wide use, or does anything 
particularly special, which has been documented somewhere on the web or 
in other literature which can be cited, not by its chief developer, 
would be noteable, yes?

On the other hand, plenty of Perl programmers zone out if you start 
talking about Spiffy (http://cpanratings.perl.org/dist/Spiffy). This 
stuff is very, very, very specialised.

 > How many downloads from CPAN constitutes "notable"?

There's very little here, and rightly so, I guess:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Perl_modules

Tim