Re: ASCII support in z/OS

While it is valuable to get ASCII support for PERL on z/OS for reasons such
as git, I think other z/OS PERL users will have similar issues that Sandra
has voiced.    Not everyone is reading/writing to Unix files on z/OS, so
chtag wouldn't help.  Even if chtag is beneficial, it means changing
scripts/procedures to accommodate the new behavior.   Also, if the new PERL
would wants to generate ASCII output by default, there is further
modification to scripts ect... to tell it to generate EBCDIC

It seems the best solution from a usability standpoint is to be able to
build PERL so that it works on z/OS as before, or build it so that it
assumes the new behavior you are targeting to support git and other
software with PERL dependencies.


Regards,

John Goodyear
z Systems Analytics zChampion
WSC  z Systems Applied Technologies
Herndon, VA
[email protected]



From:	Yaroslav Kuzmin <[email protected]>
To:	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>,
            "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc:	"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date:	07/27/2016 08:51 AM
Subject:	Re: ASCII support in z/OS



The main problem, obtain new tools to z/OS. tools is  very outdated on USS
z/OS.

This will leave the encoding EBCDIC and go to the encoding ISO-8859-1 on
USS.
and is able to build newer versions of the tools with minimum work on
porting.


If the community perl knows about encoding EBCDIC , the community git does
not know about it.

turn on the system ASCII support is much easier than working with the
encoding EBCDIC .

--

Regards,

Yaroslav Kuzmin
Developer C/C++ ,z/OS , Linux
3 Zhukovskiy Street ・ Miass, Chelyabinsk region 456318 ・ Russia
Tel:  +7.922.2.38.33.38
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.rocketsoftware.com

В Ср., 27/07/2016 в 12:30 +0000, Carroll, Sandra E (Sandra) пишет:
> 100% of what I do, and many (if not most all) on z/OS is EBCDIC based not
ASCII based.
> We do not want or need our files ascii encoded by default if that's what
you're suggesting.
> Being able to natively read a ascii file is a plus but native encoding
needs to remain EBCDIC.
>
> That would be like making EBCDIC the default encoding on Linux.
> what we do is parsing 5-10 million line per day per system log files (so
over 100 million lines)
> that are MVS (not USS) datasets.
>
> My question is what perceived problem are you trying to fix?
> Is this to make porting easier or is it to fix a problem accessing files
on zOS?
>
> Sandra



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