VB: Some ideas for NPW2008 in Stockholm
[email protected] ("Lemonnier, Erwan") Wed, 23 May 2007 16:48:37 +0200
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Hi guys, Well, reading the previous emails, I feel we all agree on the baseline. My first email may have sounded like I suggested to make NPW into a kind = of dynamic language workshop and that was not my intention. NPW 2008 = should and will be a workshop with similar content and spirit as the = previous editions. No revolution intended there. What I meant was really just a theme: trying to gather speakers and = talks in order to bring the spotlights toward the *dynamic* aspect of = Perl, and use that to attract the interest of the academia (and get = their help ;). We have the chance of having contacts with world class hackers who are = designing virtual machines and new languages (perl6). That is exciting = enough for us perl developers, but that would be highly exciting even to = folk that are not specifically specialized in perl: students wanting to = get a first hand insight in how an open source community gets things = done, and academics wanting to get in touch with real life language = implementers. Furthermore, as Salve mentioned earlier, the kind of developers who = attend a workshop are almost per definition the kind of self-motivated = people who wouldn't be scared but rather excited at the perspective of a = workshop exploring the dynamic aspects of a language. What I suggest for this workshop is to just do the usual, gathering and = accepting talks as usual, but trying to send a clear message that we = would appreciate talks about perl6, parrot and dynamic aspects of perl5. = I don't think it would be hard to gather enough material to hold 1 = dynamic track over 1 day, eventually more. And the overall content of = the workshop would be still Perl focused. As an example, I am pretty = sure any of us could get together at least one talk about things like = runtime code generation, class hierarchy hacking/mixins, duck typing, = and so on. These are things most of us use, and I think it would make = for good talks... On the side of that, if we could get 1 or 2 talks from Tobias or others = about dynamic features that are not perl specific but can be a source of = inspiration to developers using perl, I would find it really exciting, = and so would many others I think. How could we do that? By getting in touch with the right people, a long = time in advance. Meaning contacting Perl6 and parrot developers and = convincing them to come (eventually subventioning them? If we get a = cheap venue...) The carrot for them would be that they would get = academics to share ideas with, which as I witnessed when watching = Jonathan, Tobias and Johan talk last week tends to be pretty exciting = for both parts: they really have much to exchange! Jonathan W. has already expressed his support. If we could get a couple = of stars along quite early and advertise it, that should do the magic. What do you think? /Erwan