Magic-v2, Clone, and a possible `sv_clone` API function
[email protected] ("Paul \"LeoNerd\" Evans") Thu, 4 Jun 2026 14:53:43 +0100
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I've been looking around CPAN for possible modules that might break with some of the new "Magic v2" things I am lining up for next development cycle. Originally I was looking for things that might get upset if we start removing any of the internal v1 magic types, and I encountered the Clone module - because it has a comment mentioning PERL_MAGIC_arylen. While this itself is just a comment, on a further reading of the code in that module it looks like it's actually concerned quite closely with a lot of the details of how Magic (v1) currently works. This code wouldn't cope well with v2 Magic structures. My first thought for thinking about Magic-v2 is that a lot of the code would need quite a bit of editing and adjusting. Looking around CPAN more I also see that the code has basically been copy-pasted into at least two other dists; Clone-AsUTF8Bytes and Class-XSConstructor. This starts to suggest that actually, rather than living in a CPAN module, this sort of "sv_clone" API function ought to exist at the core perl level itself. That way, it would be able to do the right thing with a new version of Magic, or any other newer behaviours that get added. (While I'm there I notice it also doesn't handle SVt_PVOBJ, the new "object" SV type that was added in Perl 5.38 as part of the `class` feature, so that too would want to be looked at). Perhaps between us we can manage to find a good solution here. -- Paul "LeoNerd" Evans [email protected] http://www.leonerd.org.uk/ | https://metacpan.org/author/PEVANS