Ideas

One of the things I've noticed is that p6l has been tending to leach 
all conversation into itself, even things that more sensibly belong in 
this group.  This is mainly because people get worried when we talk 
about language issues on this list instead of the other, even though 
the two lists have almost entirely the same set of people anyway.  :-/

But in p6l, there's not really a focus on the very narrow, 
first-things-first aspects that we've historically tried to do, meaning 
only about a third of those conversations are really useful from a 
rigorous standards/language documentation point of view.  A related 
corollary is that the conversations on p6l seldom seem to reach a 
useful conclusion.

If anyone has a solution to this, I'd love to hear it.  It seems 
impossible to coax p6l into a disciplined, decision-making[*] list, and 
it seems impossible to have a disciplined, decision-making list here 
without freaking people out who don't want to write docs, but don't 
want to be left out of the loop either.

MikeL

[*] "decision-making" meaning deciding what we need to ask the design 
team to clarify, not actually deciding anything.  :-)