Re: licensing issues
[email protected] (Russ Allbery) 14 Jan 2001 19:41:57 -0800
| Newsgroups | perl.perl6.licenses |
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| Organization | The Eyrie |
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David Grove <[email protected]> writes: > I'm suggesting licensing only as a necessary first step. It's a document > where we put on paper (or in bits and bytes) what the nature of our > "spirit" is. Without this as a groundwork, there's very little to base > further action and policy on. Given that licenses should be lawyer-proof, or at least lawyer-resistant, this may not be the best place to put down the intended spirit of one's community. There are a lot of constraints forced by making something a legal document. Regardless of one's opinions of the substance of either, it's worth noting that part of the reason why the GPL is as successful as it is and as legally sound as it is is that the "spirit" document is completely separate (the GNU Manifesto). This even had the unintended side-benefit of making the GPL usable for people who didn't even agree with the intended spirit (the Manifesto). You may have a good point here. Perhaps we want a Perl Manifesto that lays out our base goals in plain English, separate from any licensing scheme. At the least, it could serve as documentation for *why* Perl is dual-licensed, since this keeps coming up. > All law in my country (the United States) is, in one way or another, > based upon a single document, our Constitution. As a somewhat off-topic side note, I feel like I should point out that this isn't true. State law is based on the 50 state constitutions, which sometimes have a different basis than the federal Constitituion. Furthermore, large chunks of the American legal system and its basic principals are based on British common law in 49 of the states, which both predates and is not anywhere close to being enumerated by the Constitution. You'll find that the Constitution in several places assumes the basis of British common law, such as in the Seventh Amendment that not only refers to the right of trial by jury without bothering to define what a jury is but even explicitly refers to common law in the second clause. To further complicate things, I believe that Louisiana's legal system is still based on the French civil code, which is an entirely different legal tradition. (This is why self-help books for writing legal documents such as wills generally include statements that the results may not be valid in Louisiana and that residents of Louisiana should consult legal counsel there.) A good introduction to the basis of law in the United States and its varied sources of authority is at <http://www.lectlaw.com/files/env02.htm>. This is somewhat relevant to the topic at hand because licenses, being arguably a subset of contract law, are to some degree based on common rather than statutory law in the United States and in some other western countries. That means that you can't necessarily figure out everything you need to know about software licenses just by reading relevant law; the basis of common law is legal precedent, which isn't as conveniently collected. -- Russ Allbery ([email protected]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>