Re: Rust community in distress

[email protected] (Daniel Sockwell via perl6-users)
Newsgroups perl.perl6.users
Message-ID <[email protected]>
> Depending on how many would leave the original product, the pace of 
> development of both could be slowed down by a factor of 2 or even more.

That's technically correct (which, after all, is the best kind of 
correct, https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/909991-futurama ).

But while the pace of development *could* be slowed down by a lot, it 
could also be almost entirely unchanged – and, ime, the modal fork gets 
little traction and basically doesn't impact the original project 
(obviously with large exceptions at the tail).  And that's what I expect 
with Rust/Crabby (was that the name of the fork? I just watched the video 
and have already forgotten…)

I have more thoughts re: Rust's issues, but I'll save those for sometime 
when I'm not about to board an airplane.

Jun 9, 2023 4:06:22 PM Vadim Belman <[email protected]>:

> There is a fork, already. At least, this is what he says in the video.
>
> There is a catch though, and it is mentioned in the video too. A few 
> catches, actually. 
>
> First, such conflict-based forks cause harm to project reputation. 
>
> Second, it confuses potential supporters and this could reduce project 
> funding. 
>
> Third, developers would get separated between projects. Depending on 
> how many would leave the original product, the pace of development of 
> both could be slowed down by a factor of 2 or even more.
>
> Best regards,
> Vadim Belman
>
>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 2:40 AM, İsmail Arılık <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> This is the open source world! So if there is a problem between the 
>> management of Rust and the community, a fork would come and be popular 
>> soon. Leaving Rust shouldn't be an option I think since it is really a 
>> good language. 
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023, 07:04 Darren Duncan <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> And here Rust seemed to be massively gaining in popularity, and was 
>>> just
>>> supported officially for Linux kernel driver support etc. -- Darren 
>>> Duncan
>>>
>>> On 2023-06-08 11:17 a.m., Parrot Raiser wrote:
>>>> See https://youtu.be/QEnuzwCWpgQ <https://youtu.be/QEnuzwCWpgQ>
>>>>
>>>> This is not meant to be an example of schadenfreude.  Rust is an 
>>>> interesting
>>>> language, whose ecological niche has little in common with Perl's or 
>>>> Raku's. Its
>>>> principal rival is Go, which is definitely more corporate.   
>>>> Alphabet already
>>>> controls far too much.  (Yes, that sentiment may not be compatible 
>>>> with a gmail
>>>> account.)
>>>> It is unfortunate when any worthwhile Open Source project suffers 
>>>> from community
>>>> or personality conflicts. It's worth noting them, to help us avoid 
>>>> similar
>>>> situations.
>>>
>
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