Re: My post-ultimate message about my perma ban and the context

[email protected] (Elizabeth Mattijsen) Sat, 21 Mar 2026 20:25:44 +0100
Newsgroups perl.perl6.users
Message-ID <[email protected]>
> On 17 Mar 2026, at 21:04, Joseph Brenner via perl6-users =
<[email protected]> wrote:
> It's a shame the core group couldn't find a better way to deal with =
all this-- it would seem to me that someone like M=C3=A1rton would be =
useful to have around.

For a long time I have felt the same: that changed in February.


FWIW, this response on programming.dev (from someone who was completely =
unaware of the Raku Programming Language and its community) describes =
the situation very well:

  https://programming.dev/post/47337716/22828490

"You got banned because no one wanted to be around you, there is no nice =
way to say it. Not just having awful takes, but repeatedly going on =
rants even after people told you to stop. Whenever someone told you to =
stop going off-topic and starting what are essentially flame wars, you =
then started screeching about being silenced. You also bash random =
people at times about their contributions not being good enough to you, =
which is uncalled for and toxic. Your article reads like you view =
yourself as the victim. But you are not one. I am surprised you even =
made an account just to whine at me on lemmy, which is a leftist social =
media platform, I=E2=80=99m from one of the anarchist instances even.

If someone made it clear to you that you made everyone uncomfortable, =
then maybe you would get it (I am guessing you have trouble reading =
social cues) but instead they =E2=80=9Ctroll hugged=E2=80=9D you until =
they got sick of it. The =E2=80=9Ccode of conduct violations=E2=80=9D =
(aka bigotry) is why they got rid of you. You can write the best code, =
but it does not mean people will be willing to work with you. You will =
not be able to find some magical rule to win and get unbanned like a =
lawyer in a legal case. It is not stalking either when people don=E2=80=99=
t want to be associated with your views, let alone their project they =
have been working on for years. Your views are harmful to people in real =
life. But you dismiss the very real harm and hand wave it as a =
=E2=80=9Cculture war=E2=80=9D. That is incredibly messed up.

It doesn=E2=80=99t matter what anyone says to you, you disregard =
whatever people say because you just have to be right on whatever =
subject comes up and you feel personally attacked like the injustice is =
happening to you. That is exhausting to be around. You should aim to be =
more empathetic. Picture why the other people were uncomfortable, why =
they asked you to stop ranting, why they banned you when they are =
supposed to hug trolls until they feel safe enough to open up and change =
(supposedly, I maintain that doesn=E2=80=99t work with randos). My =
solution is to get a therapist, I know that sounds like I=E2=80=99m =
being mean, but a therapist can literally break this down for you and =
help you uncover why this happened, all in a safe place. You need to =
reflect on this. Or you are doomed to keep repeating the same mistakes."=