Re[2]: My post-ultimate message about my perma ban and the context
[email protected] (Polgár Márton) Thu, 26 Mar 2026 09:02:12 +0000
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People bringing their own framings if they want, I don't mind that - the=20
target audience wasn't outsider self-proclaimed leftists or people who=20
played an active role in the whole procedure. For what it's worth, I=20
also haven't heard about this "bigotry" narrative before.
Downplaying an extensive analysis with concerning parts completely=20
unrelated to me as "his framing" is a little annoying but not=20
surprising.
>At least two of us corresponded with him extensively - something he=20
>omits to mention.
However, this is too much - it's just false in a bad-faith way. Not only=20
is this narrative recalled ("we had a meeting", "you were heard") but=20
your own (I think yours and Vadim's) messages are linked about this. I=20
don't know what more you would want. I didn't want to use private=20
conversations but it's not like the records are missing or inconsistent:=20
as I was compiling this report, I literally told you the same in=20
private. It occurred to me that these "extensive correspondences" and=20
"chances" were totally one-sided and dismissive: the only objective was=20
that I take the blame. Remember, we made it to the point where you were=20
entitled to your misinterpretation of my words and me saying "hey, you=20
misunderstood" was "evidence" that I "don't accept others perspectives".=20
On the other hand, others lashing out at me in personal and hurtful ways=20
always got excuses - it was transitively my fault, too.
You may dislike this "framing" that the way you handled the situation=20
was actively dismissive, that's alright. But it's really grotesque that=20
I cannot publish my perspective without having to face false=20
counter-claims that somehow seem to put me in a bad light.
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5164474839e4d5388ee4ed0"><div>People bringing their own framings if they wa=
nt, I don't mind that - the target audience wasn't outsider self-proclaimed =
leftists or people who played an active role in the whole procedure. For w=
hat it's worth, I also haven't heard about this "bigotry" narrative before.=
</div><div><br /></div><div x-em-quote=3D"">Downplaying an extensive analys=
is with concerning parts completely unrelated to me as "his framing" is a l=
ittle annoying but not surprising.</div><div id=3D"x4ca77012dfa7432"><div i=
d=3D"x4ca77012dfa7432"></div></div></div></div>
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<div id=3D"x697389ca5c204f7"><blockquote cite=3D"CACC55n8kBUWwwRQkv8TMJEyVT=
[email protected]" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2">
<div dir=3D"auto">At least two of us corresponded with him extensively - so=
mething he omits to mention.</div></blockquote><div id=3D"xd3a76ddda3314b90=
be273fd3efef7f57"><div><div id=3D"x6397c21c95164474839e4d5388ee4ed0"><div i=
d=3D"x4ca77012dfa7432"><div id=3D"x4ca77012dfa7432">However, this is too mu=
ch - it's just false in a bad-faith way. Not only is this narrative recalle=
d ("we had a meeting", "you were heard") but your own (I think yours and Va=
dim's) messages are linked about this. I don't know what more you would wan=
t. I didn't want to use private conversations but it's not like the records =
are missing or inconsistent: as I was compiling this report, I literally t=
old you the same in private. It occurred to me that these "extensive corres=
pondences" and "chances" were totally one-sided and dismissive: the only ob=
jective was that I take the blame. Remember, we made it to the point where=
you were entitled to your misinterpretation of my words and me saying "hey, =
you misunderstood" was "evidence" that I "don't accept others perspectives=
". On the other hand, others lashing out at me in personal and hurtful ways =
always got excuses - it was transitively my fault, too.<br /><br /></div><=
div id=3D"x4ca77012dfa7432">You may dislike this "framing" that the way you =
handled the situation was actively dismissive, that's alright. But it's re=
ally grotesque that I cannot publish my perspective without having to face=
false counter-claims that somehow seem to put me in a bad light.</div></div=
></div></div></div></div>
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