Re: PerlGameDev Annonces, Aftermath YAPC::NA

On 7/1/2011 7:22 PM, Adam Kennedy wrote:
> All mainstream win32 have snake now, they just don't have any other makes

What is snake?  I don't seem to have it on
my winXP box.

--Chris

> On Jul 2, 2011 8:40 AM, "chm"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> On 7/1/2011 10:24 AM, Kartik Thakore wrote:
>>>
>>> =head2 OpenGL 3.0
>>> =blame kthakore, chromatic
>>> =for kthakore, Chris, jtpalmer
>>>
>>> This comes from the following observations ( feel free to scold/correct
>>> me ).
>>>
>>> =over
>>>
>>> =item Convergence to OpenGL
>>>
>>> SDL 1.3 is moving over to OpenGL. Having the ability to do neat things
>>> with OpenGL this will help to add more performance, speed and
>>> flexibility to the module.
>>>
>>> =item POGL still uses FreeGLUT
>>>
>>> POGL albeit great is getting ... old. FreeGLUT is slowing down ( SDL
>>> replaces this fine and we have tests to prove it see construder. It is
>>> an extra dep.
>>
>> FreeGLUT is the default window "provider" for POGL.
>> Any GUI toolkit that supports creating OpenGL contexts
>> and setting them should work fine. I'm looking into
>> factoring out the GUI dependencies so that POGL works
>> better with other GUI toolkits to provide the OS and
>> window system support.
>>
>>> =item OpenGL 3.3 is a fixed target
>>>
>>> New OpenGL is all the way up to 4.x now. OpenGL 3.3 has been around for
>>> a while and is not going to be using.
>>>
>>> =back
>>>
>>> Based on this I think we should attempt to help the POGL dev with
>>> whatever he needs. I will move it to github at some point. Additionally
>>> chip during my talk you mentioned some technology for doing OpenGL
>>> context/display lists better. Can you mention it again chip? I seem to
>>> have forgotten it.
>>
>> I'm not sure what the issues with context/display
>> lists might be but would be interested to hear.
>>
>> As I see it, the top missing feature in Perl OpenGL
>> is support for OpenGL versions greater than 2.x.
>> Work is underway to refactor POGL to use GLEW for
>> the bindings. That should improve portability and
>> capability (GLEW supports pretty much all current
>> OpenGL versions).
>>
>> The next priority for POGL is the build process
>> which is hamstrung by a static probe for system
>> capabilities and requires a shell and make to
>> work. I would like to move detection of needed
>> libraries to an Alien::Module and to Module::Build
>> for POGL itself which would avoid some of the
>> portability problems with win32---no shell, no
>> make, no package manager. I would like to see
>> POGL build on win32 platforms *without* requiring
>> a MSYS or cygwin install to get things to work.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris Marshall
>>
>>> The hope will be to make a declarative for OpenGL constructs that can be
>>> sent straight to the hardware. Adam Kennedy has some work start in this
>>> area (OpenGL::List).
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>
>
>
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