Re: Are multiple mainwindows possible?

I agree, most Tkx users like myself transitioned from Perl/Tk and know 
little or no Tcl.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Carman" <[email protected]>
To: "Gisle Aas" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Konovalov, Vadim (Vadim)** CTR **" <[email protected]>; 
"tcltk" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Are multiple mainwindows possible?


> Gisle Aas wrote:
>> On Sep 2, 2009, at 17:00 , Michael Carman wrote:
>>> I think the Tkx documentation should mention [Tkx::eval] directly.
>>
>> I'm not sure what makes 'eval' special enough to list it explicitly
>> in the docs.
>
> It's a discoverability thing. I think Tkx::eval() is special because
> there's a qualitative difference between knowing that you can call
> arbitrary Tcl functions and knowing that you can execute arbitrary Tcl 
> code.
>
> You seem to be under the impression that people who use Tkx know Tcl.
> I'd wager that most people don't know any. I certainly didn't when I
> picked up Tkx and I only know a tiny bit more now. I think most users
> are transitioning from Perl/Tk. Some probably haven't even used that.
> Most of my early days were spent trying to find the pattern between how
> I'd write something in Perl/Tk and how I had to do it Tkx without really
> understanding Tcl. That was useful in a way, but it was also problematic
> as some of the things I attempted to map were added by Perl and don't
> exist in Tcl. e.g. the support for ClassInit() that I'm playing with now. 
> :D
>
> To be honest, I didn't know that Tcl even had an eval function until
> Vadim said that he couldn't find Tkx::eval() in the docs and I starting
> looking through the source. I was surprised when I didn't find
>
>  sub eval { $interp->call(@_) }
>
> somewhere in Tkx.pm. It took me a little while to put the pieces together.
>
>> There might be a place in the Tkx tutorial to talk about these in
>> detail.
>
> That's better than nothing, but I think this is important enough to put
> it in the main documentation. I read the tutorial when I first started
> using Tkx but never really looked at it afterward. By the time I would
> have needed eval I would have forgotten having ever read about it.
>
> -mjc
>