RE: ptkdb vs tkdb

Hi Matthew,

the most recent version of tkdb is on CPAN, which is  Devel-tkdb.

Look at Changes file on what changes were done to the "ptkdb" debugger,
http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/VKON/Devel-tkdb-2.2/Changes
e.g. the lines

        event loop (main_loop) is much better: it does not cycle eating CPU, instead waits

(most important change IMO, is it will not eat the battery of your notebook while you're debugging :) )

Actually I can say that - during development - I ran the "tkdb" debugger in a specially constructed huge program of 150k lines (!) and it was really fast and responsive!

perl -we "print qq/\$a++;\nprint \$a;\n/ x 75000" | perl -d:tkdb
is quite fast.

"tkdb" actually lacks about 2-3 days of development time to have it feature-finished and really cool :)
Maybe eventually I finish it.
Surely I'll restart tkdb after all other important things are finished :)

PS. Je ne connais pas votre ami,
this is not surprising, because I am living near the edge of the World, while your collage friend presumably is closer to the centre :)

Regards,
Vadim.

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From: Matthew Persico [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 3:23 PM
To: Konovalov, Vadim (Vadim)** CTR **
Subject: Fwd: ptkdb vs tkdb

Vadim,

Where can I get the latest version of tkdb? I am in the process of making some changes to ptkdb and I'd like to see if any of your upgraded functionality can be used in ptkdb. I have already made some changes to ptkdb that I can share with you if you like.

Thanks

PS - I see you work at alcatel-lucent. Do you know a Joseph Knobloch? I believe he works there. We went to college together.

From: Konovalov, Vadim (Vadim)** CTR ** [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:34 AM
To: Persico, Matthew; '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'; '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'; '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: ptkdb vs tkdb

Hi,

As you may know, ptkdb uses perl/Tk.

I - personally - moved to perl+Tcl/tk out from perl/Tk (many years ago) and never return back.
For usage of debugger - I adopted ptkdb for perl+Tcl/Tk

Now - if you're using perl/Tk - then do use ptkdb,
if you're using perl+Tcl/Tk - then do use tkdb.

During adoption, I greatly reduced the size of debugger, greatly improved
(now it can debug autogenerated script of size 150k lines, for example))

Also I throwed away obsoleted technologies in ptkdb,

but then I left it unfinished, in the middle.
Maybe someday the work will be finished. maybe not.
Please let us know if you have actual interest in it.

Regards,
Vadim.


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From: Persico, Matthew [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:06 PM
To: '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'; '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'; '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'
Subject: ptkdb vs tkdb
Gentlemen,
After a few years of being off in the wilderness of other languages I am returning to Perl.
When searching for a piece of information about ptkdb, I encountered tkdb, some of whose documentation appears to be lifted right out of the ptkdb page.
I also see that the tkdb page and AEP listed as an author.
So, what’s the deal? Is tkdb the anointed successor to ptkdb? Or a sibling?

Thanks,

Matthew Persico, Vice President
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