Re: Matching upper ASCII characters in RE patterns

[email protected] (karl williamson) Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:18:56 -0700
Newsgroups perl.unicode
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Jonathan Pool wrote:
> Thanks very much for your further information about this issue.
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> I'll be happy to file a bug report, but I should also mention that the problematic behavior not only exists with "use encoding 'utf8'" and "use utf8", but differs between them. Both produce wrong results, but different wrong results:
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Just one bug report will be fine.  I don't have a Perl 5.10 laying 
around to test on, but I can say that the files I sent you did what I 
said on 5.13.7.  I think that the one that was supposedly in latin1 
could have gotten converted to utf8 in the email process.  There have 
been many significant bug fixes in Perl since 5.10.0.

> With “use encoding 'utf8'”:
> The NBS is matched by /\N{NO-BREAK SPACE}/
> The NBS is matched by / / (a no-break space)
> The NBS is matched by /[\7f-\x80]/
> The NBS is NOT matched by /[\xa0]/
> The NBS is NOT matched by /\xa0/
> The NBS is NOT matched by /\N{U+00a0}/
> The NBS is NOT matched by /junk/
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> With “use utf8”:
> The NBS is matched by /\N{NO-BREAK SPACE}/
> The NBS is matched by / / (a no-break space)
> The NBS is matched by /[\7f-\x80]/
> The NBS is matched by /[\xa0]/
> The NBS is matched by /\xa0/
> The NBS is matched by /\N{U+00a0}/
> The NBS is NOT matched by /junk/
> 
> With neither “use encoding 'utf8'” nor “use utf8”:
> The NBS is matched by /\N{NO-BREAK SPACE}/
> The NBS is NOT matched by /Â / (a no-break space)
> The NBS is matched by /[\7f-\x80]/
> The NBS is matched by /[\xa0]/
> The NBS is matched by /\xa0/
> The NBS is matched by /\N{U+00a0}/
> The NBS is NOT matched by /junk/
> 
> (The 3rd and 7th patterns, out of 7, should fail.)
> 
> (If I include both statements, the behavior is the same as if "use encoding 'utf8'" alone is present. This testing is with "<:encoding(utf8)".)
> 
> So, I'm confused as to whether this is 1 bug or more than 1, and how best to document it (or them). Could you advise me on this?
> 
> On 30 Nov 2010, at 10:25, karl williamson wrote:
> 
>> Jonathan Pool wrote:
>>> Let's say the character NO-BREAK SPACE (U+00A0) appears in a UTF8-encoded text file (so it appears there as C2A0), and I want to match strings that contain this character.
>>> I write a script (itself encoded with UTF8) in Perl 5.10.0 (on OS X 10.6.5) with:
>>> use encoding 'utf8';
>>> use charnames ':full:';
>>> The script opens the file with:
>>> open FH, '<:utf8', filename.txt;
>> You should always use '<:encoding(utf8)' instead to get utf8 validation.
>> But that's not the problem here.
>> I tested it on the very latest development code, and it still fails. The problem is a bug or bugs in Perl with parsing files encoded in utf8.  I converted the .pl to latin1 and removed the "use encoding 'utf8'", and it works.
>>
>> I believe it is known that there are issues with 'use encoding', but I suggest filing a bug report, by sending email to [email protected]. Attached are two files I created to test.  These should be attached to the bug report so as to not have to be done again.
>>> It reads lines in with:
>>> while <FH> {}
>>> Then, in a regular expression in the script, I can match the NO-BREAK SPACE with any of these patterns:
>>> 1. /\N{NO-BREAK SPACE}/
>>> 2. / / (where the character between slashes looks like a space but is a no-break space)
>>> 3. /[\x7f-\x80]/
>>> Patterns 1 and 2 make sense, but pattern 3 is mysterious to me, because the range specified in pattern 3 includes DELETE and an unnamed character but does not include NO-BREAK SPACE.
>>> Moreover, I expect to be able to match the NO-BREAK SPACE with these patterns, but I cannot:
>>> 4. /[\xa0]/
>>> 5. /\xa0/
>>> In the related documentation, I have not found anything explaining why pattern 3 works, or anything explaining why patterns 4 and 5 do not work.
>>> I have replicated these anomalies in Perl 5.8.8. under Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.
>>> I would be delighted to receive explanations or references to documentation that I have overlooked or misunderstood.
>> <nobreak_latin1.pl><nobreak_utf8.pl> 
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