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Paul avait soumis l'idée :
> On 5/4/2022 6:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Paul a émis l'idée suivante :
>>> On 5/4/2022 6:07 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I hope it's the good groop for this plaint.
>>>>
>>>> Your server accept since few days the cancels from "miakibot2".
>>>>
>>>> A lot of cancel from this robot is not legitimate cancel.
>>>> But it's a cancel war againt one person.
>>>> A lot of French users are not for these cancels which are not consensual
>>>>
>>>> You should know that that the "miakibot" has already deleted last year
>>>> more than 3600 messages from another person (Pierre) in a very abusive
>>>> way. This time his target is "Neo".
>>>>
>>>> Please, block these cancellations of the miakibot of which a great part
>>>> is abusive or block the cancellations of the servers from which these
>>>> abusive cancellations come from (server ALPHANET which does not want to
>>>> do anything and produce)
>>>>
>>>> sincerely yours,
>>>>
>>>> Examples of recent abusives cancels:
>>>>
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> You want eternal-september.org
>>>
>>> The address for correspondence/email is:
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â mail-complaints-to = "[email protected]"
>>>
>>> ******************************************************
>>>
>>> http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Ct4h2np%2418b%241%40dont-email.me%3E
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org;
>>> posting-host="567ad90b4411d4bd307d983d52254db1";
>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â logging-data="1291";
>>> mail-complaints-to="[email protected]";Â Â Â
>>> posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/8bpji8EfGproVjviyQY8m"
>>> Â Â Â User-Agent: MacCafe/2.07 (4D18) (macOS 12.3.1 (21E258) - iMac18,3)
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Cancel-Lock: sha1:Td+2MwxvrwXpMoggioJJMbqSdR0=Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â \
>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â sha256:OVzsl0bFZRe8ztbKy3K5lwze9EBUmN29DL0/HTMK1LY=Â Â
>>> \___ This is not normal
>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â sha1:H8zxdiknN5VL6cy1IDbFMe6TrQs=Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â /
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_message
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20070502013009/http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-usefor-cancel-lock-01
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â Â "3.1Â Adding an initial "Cancel-Lock: " header to a proto-article...
>>> <=== Does not explain it
>>>
>>> Your client did not add excess cancel-locks to your complaint message.
>>>
>>> As a result, perhaps try posting via AIOE and see if the cancelbot and
>>> Rogue Server in the path, are damaging posts in that sequence
>>> as well (somehow). AIOE does not appear to be adding a
>>> Cancel-Lock header, and your posting might well survive.
>>>
>>> Info posted on your cancel itself.
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/fr.soc.politique/c/7O4QLZ9mM20/m/Omasx5f2AAAJ
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Paul
>>
>> I am not sure to understand excatly what you said.
>> I make a test to send a message from AIOE
>> It was cancelled by the miakibot to.
>>
>> The rogue cancel message:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Path:
>> aioe.org!news.alphanet.ch!alphanet.ch!miakibot!byreferences!cyberspam!not-for-mail
>> From: miakibot3 <[email protected]>
>> Organization: miakibot
>> Subject: cmsg cancel <uls57hta1s6esuhq50tat486a4estpq2et@consensus-omnium>
>> Control: cancel <uls57hta1s6esuhq50tat486a4estpq2et@consensus-omnium>
>> Date: Wed, 04 May 2022 23:42:15 +0200
>> Archive: No
>> X-No-Archive: Yes
>> Message-ID: <cancel.uls57hta1s6esuhq50tat486a4estpq2et@consensus-omnium>
>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>> Followup-To: poster
>> X-Original-From: LaLibreParole <[email protected]>
>> Newsgroups: fr.usenet.abus.d
>> X-Original-Subject: Re: La philosophie du cancel sur Usenet
>> X-Original-Date: Wed, 04 May 2022 23:40:25 +0200
>> X-Original-Message-ID:
>> <uls57hta1s6esuhq50tat486a4estpq2et@consensus-omnium>
>> Xref: aioe.org control.cancel:1582821
>>
>> Response to a cancelled article (byreferences)
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> I Think the problem is not the source message, or cancel-lock but
>> the acceptance of the rogue cancel from ALPHANET server,
>> The abusive user on this serveur is: "<[email protected]>"
>>
>> But the ALPHANET server promote these rogues cancels.
>> This is why i write to server which newly accept these abusives
>> cancels of the miakibot2 or miakibot3.
>> Until April 29 or 30 "aioe" did not accept these cancels.
>> But now "aioe" accept them.
>> Plesae, stop to accept these rogues cancels.
>>
>> sincerely yours,
>
> Maybe Paolo can have a look at this one.
It will be nice to see where is the problem.
There is a lot of abusive cancel per day from miakibot2 and miakibot3
> I would be surprised if Cancel was left blowing in the breeze
> and uncontrolled.
Maybe the cancels are automatically accepted by "aioe" since the
implementation of the new ALPHANET feed?
>
> http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=+%3Culs57hta1s6esuhq50tat486a4estpq2et%40consensus-omnium%3E
>
> Path:
> ...!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!w17zEAFnflhCkP7jBwzYiQ.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail
> From: LaLibreParole <[email protected]>
> Newsgroups: fr.usenet.abus.d
> Subject: Re: La philosophie du cancel sur Usenet
> Date: Wed, 04 May 2022 23:40:25 +0200
> Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
> Message-ID: <uls57hta1s6esuhq50tat486a4estpq2et@consensus-omnium>
> References: <[email protected]>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="21633";
> posting-host="w17zEAFnflhCkP7jBwzYiQ.user.gioia.aioe.org";
> mail-complaints-to="[email protected]";
> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
> X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2
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