Re: Alabama court ruled frozen embryos are children. Experts explain potential impacts to IVF treatment.

"Scout" <[email protected]> Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:10:26 -0500
Newsgroups alabama.politics,alt.abortion,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc
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"Attila" <<[email protected]> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:46:36 -0500, "Scout"
> <[email protected]> in alt.abortion
> with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>"Attila" <<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:52:31 +0100 (CET), Jethro
>>> <[email protected]> in alt.abortion with message-id
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>On 31 Mar 2022, pothead <[email protected]> posted some
>>>>news:[email protected]:
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>>>>> Good news.  This decision will have a wide impact on the liberal nut
>>>>> communitities.
>>>>
>>>>The Alabama Supreme Court ruled last week that frozen embryos created
>>>>through in vitro fertilization, or IVF, are considered children under
>>>>state law and are therefore subject to legislation dealing with the
>>>>wrongful death of a minor if one is destroyed.
>>>
>>> If these are never used does the state pick up the cost of
>>> maintaining permanent storage?
>>
>>I have some better questions.... if they are children
>
> But if they are abandoned by the donors and not wanted who
> has legal custody?  Are they the legal responsibility of the
> donors?

Well, if abandoned they would become wards of the State making Alabama 
legally responsible for their care and upbringing..

Yet, another can of worms.


>>Can you deduct them as dependents on your State and Federal income taxes?
>>If they get divorced who gets 'custody' of the children?
>>Do standard child support laws apply?
>>When they have been around for 18-21 years are they now considered adults?
>>At that time could the parents apply for welfare as their adult child is
>>unable to work?
>>If something happens that makes them "wards of the state" will the state
>>continue to pay for their needs until the end of time?
>>
>>Yea, I think the Court screwed the pooch on this one.
>>
>
> Stupid laws tend to do that and the entire arena of abortion
> abounds with such laws.  That is usually the result when the
> law steps into an area where it does not belong.

Well, I can accept that an argument can be made for a fetus at some point.. 
but a frozen cell?

That seems like a very unreasonable stretch.

I mean by that measure you could claim that donating blood is human 
trafficking...