Re: Alabama court ruled frozen embryos are children. Experts explain potential impacts to IVF treatment.

Attila <<[email protected]> Thu, 22 Feb 2024 11:19:41 -0500
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:10:26 -0500, "Scout"
<[email protected]> in alt.abortion
with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:

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>"Attila" <<[email protected]> wrote in message 
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:46:36 -0500, "Scout"
>> <[email protected]> in alt.abortion
>> with message-id <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>"Attila" <<[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:52:31 +0100 (CET), Jethro
>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.abortion with message-id
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>>On 31 Mar 2022, pothead <[email protected]> posted some
>>>>>news:[email protected]:
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>>>>>> Good news.  This decision will have a wide impact on the liberal nut
>>>>>> communitities.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Alabama Supreme Court ruled last week that frozen embryos created
>>>>>through in vitro fertilization, or IVF, are considered children under
>>>>>state law and are therefore subject to legislation dealing with the
>>>>>wrongful death of a minor if one is destroyed.
>>>>
>>>> If these are never used does the state pick up the cost of
>>>> maintaining permanent storage?
>>>
>>>I have some better questions.... if they are children
>>
>> But if they are abandoned by the donors and not wanted who
>> has legal custody?  Are they the legal responsibility of the
>> donors?
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>Well, if abandoned they would become wards of the State making Alabama 
>legally responsible for their care and upbringing..
>
>Yet, another can of worms.
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>>>Can you deduct them as dependents on your State and Federal income taxes?
>>>If they get divorced who gets 'custody' of the children?
>>>Do standard child support laws apply?
>>>When they have been around for 18-21 years are they now considered adults?
>>>At that time could the parents apply for welfare as their adult child is
>>>unable to work?
>>>If something happens that makes them "wards of the state" will the state
>>>continue to pay for their needs until the end of time?
>>>
>>>Yea, I think the Court screwed the pooch on this one.
>>>
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>> Stupid laws tend to do that and the entire arena of abortion
>> abounds with such laws.  That is usually the result when the
>> law steps into an area where it does not belong.
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>Well, I can accept that an argument can be made for a fetus at some point.. 
>but a frozen cell?
>
>That seems like a very unreasonable stretch.
>
>I mean by that measure you could claim that donating blood is human 
>trafficking...
> 

Now that cloning is possible you could be arrested for
washing your hands.  All those destroyed cells.

Is it now illegal for women not to have all possible
children?   After all every possibility represents a
potential individual.  Just as a fetus does.

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