Re: The price of oil

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> On 12.10.2022 13.34, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>> 
>>> On 11.10.2022 22.38, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10.10.2022 15.41, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08.10.2022 16.30, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I knew that. There is project at StatCan to look into
>>>>>>>>>> creating some sort of 'people registry' like the
>>>>>>>>>> Scandahoovian countries have. It will probably never get off
>>>>>>>>>> the ground mostly due to the bullshit levels of bureaucracy
>>>>>>>>>> that you have to go through to do anything here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are some legitimate privacy issues - including that this
>>>>>>>>> unique identifier is used in all kinds of context; health
>>>>>>>>> care, taxation and pensions, banks et.c.
>>>>>>>>> We have a Data Protection Agency to try and keep private data
>>>>>>>>> out of the hands of people who shouldn't have it. Incidentally
>>>>>>>>> they recently forbade a school district to use chromebooks
>>>>>>>>> because of privacy concerns vis a vis Google...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was actually wondering how they planned on keep the
>>>>>>>> information up-to- date. They asked me for a dump from my
>>>>>>>> database which is always 2 years behind. Not helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every citizen will obviously be self-reporting any changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the problem is they will be expected to do that (and 50%
>>>>>> will) but the others won't.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what the fines are for.
>>>>
>>>> What happens if someone doesn't pay the fine?
>>>> The newsmedia here have this uncanny ability to find the one person
>>>> who will have decide whether the pay the fine or buy food for their
>>>> family.
>>>
>>> That's easy. Then the relevant gubberment functionary will know
>>> where they are (from the newsreport) and go get the missing
>>> information. 
>> 
>> One down, 500,000 to go...
> 
> It's not actually going to that much of a problem once the system is 
> implemented. You want a bank-account - need a CPR number. Want a job -
> need a bank account (likewise for any monetary assistance from public 
> coffers or tax refunds). Want a passport, medical assistance of any 
> kind, borrow from a public library, pay taxes, enroll in education 
> facility - need a CPR number.

We have a social insurance number that you need to open a bank account 
or get a job. It relates to income tax stuff, anything you would require 
a tax form for (income, whether employment or public money, investments, 
tuition). But you don't need it for the other stuff like passports etc.

I used to follow a tax froup on usenet years ago. I helped out filing 
tax returns  for low-income seniors at the time. An accountant used to 
post all these hilarilous stories from the time he worked at the Revenue 
Agency. He said that people could cheat the system by filing their taxes 
without the SIN number and they would be issued a new one.  When a 
record linkage project started up at work, one of the methodologists was 
blown away that someone in the tax database had 15 SIN numbers. there's 
a saying that nothing is fool-proof because fools are often ingenious.

> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try not to focus on that when I don't pay for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doctors or prescriptions or when it costs me $10 to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my teeth cleaned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He-he. Silly 'merkins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also: Dammit, I pay close to $100[1] for a teeth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleaning. And I'm supposed to have it done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4times/year because reasons. The previous government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cut almost all subsidy for dental care, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present one don't seem in a hurry to reverse that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1: Not actual dollars but the equivalent monetary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value in the local currency.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked on my last bill. It costs $210 and my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insurance covers 90%. If I had a spouse, the co-pay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would cover the rest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should get one of them, then. I mean 20 bucks is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 bucks...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wanna help me write up a dating profile?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Trust me, you do not want my input for that...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          From what I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learned from the internet, just don't add pictures of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself holding a fish; or maybe that only applies to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> men.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of my friends uses online dating sites. She meets a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of guys I will politely refer to as 'undateable'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It all seems weird to me. You *know* everybody is going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lie through their teeth on their profile which leaves just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how they present themselves in pictures (fish or no fish)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to decide possible compatibility...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd wager the same people who lie in person like at a bar
>>>>>>>>>>>> are the same ones who lie on their dating profile. Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> the 'catch of the day' person has a great sense humour (or
>>>>>>>>>>>> irony?). You never know until you try something.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe they smell of fish - you can't tell that from a
>>>>>>>>>>> picture.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also if someone tells you that they are an astronaut or a
>>>>>>>>>>> secret agent type they are almost certainly lying. In other
>>>>>>>>>>> cases it will be easier to evaluate their veracity face to
>>>>>>>>>>> face...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What a coincidence! I'm a secret agent too!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I Don't believe you - so you don't have to kill me now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And that fish smell? It's my new cologne --Fruit de Mer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Very -erm- catching...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See? It's working already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would work on a cat...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not my cat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you want me to send you my dead mouse to try on your cat? It
>>>>> hasn't been dead for more than a day... yet.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Save the postage. Soonish I will probably have mice in the house
>>>> and she can catch a fresh one.
>>>
>>> So she's good for something after all. When she's awake.
>>>
>> She's been practicing with the toy mouse. At 2 AM.
> 
> The squeaky kind?
> 

The squeaky things are dog toys. Cat's no like noise.