Re: The price of oil

On 13.10.2022 14.03, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> 
>> On 12.10.2022 13.34, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On 11.10.2022 22.38, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10.10.2022 15.41, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08.10.2022 16.30, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I knew that. There is project at StatCan to look into
>>>>>>>>>>> creating some sort of 'people registry' like the
>>>>>>>>>>> Scandahoovian countries have. It will probably never get off
>>>>>>>>>>> the ground mostly due to the bullshit levels of bureaucracy
>>>>>>>>>>> that you have to go through to do anything here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are some legitimate privacy issues - including that this
>>>>>>>>>> unique identifier is used in all kinds of context; health
>>>>>>>>>> care, taxation and pensions, banks et.c.
>>>>>>>>>> We have a Data Protection Agency to try and keep private data
>>>>>>>>>> out of the hands of people who shouldn't have it. Incidentally
>>>>>>>>>> they recently forbade a school district to use chromebooks
>>>>>>>>>> because of privacy concerns vis a vis Google...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was actually wondering how they planned on keep the
>>>>>>>>> information up-to- date. They asked me for a dump from my
>>>>>>>>> database which is always 2 years behind. Not helpful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Every citizen will obviously be self-reporting any changes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But the problem is they will be expected to do that (and 50%
>>>>>>> will) but the others won't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what the fines are for.
>>>>>
>>>>> What happens if someone doesn't pay the fine?
>>>>> The newsmedia here have this uncanny ability to find the one person
>>>>> who will have decide whether the pay the fine or buy food for their
>>>>> family.
>>>>
>>>> That's easy. Then the relevant gubberment functionary will know
>>>> where they are (from the newsreport) and go get the missing
>>>> information.
>>>
>>> One down, 500,000 to go...
>>
>> It's not actually going to that much of a problem once the system is
>> implemented. You want a bank-account - need a CPR number. Want a job -
>> need a bank account (likewise for any monetary assistance from public
>> coffers or tax refunds). Want a passport, medical assistance of any
>> kind, borrow from a public library, pay taxes, enroll in education
>> facility - need a CPR number.
> 
> We have a social insurance number that you need to open a bank account
> or get a job. It relates to income tax stuff, anything you would require
> a tax form for (income, whether employment or public money, investments,
> tuition). But you don't need it for the other stuff like passports etc.
> 
> I used to follow a tax froup on usenet years ago. I helped out filing
> tax returns  for low-income seniors at the time. An accountant used to
> post all these hilarilous stories from the time he worked at the Revenue
> Agency. He said that people could cheat the system by filing their taxes
> without the SIN number and they would be issued a new one.  When a
> record linkage project started up at work, one of the methodologists was
> blown away that someone in the tax database had 15 SIN numbers. there's
> a saying that nothing is fool-proof because fools are often ingenious.

How could that even work. Was all the SIN-numbers active/valid at the 
same time - possible prescription drug palooza - or did they have to 
figure out what their number is after each tax-return?
Also why didn't the tax-people just look up the correct SIN instead of 
handing out new ones all over the place?

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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What a coincidence! I'm a secret agent too!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I Don't believe you - so you don't have to kill me now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And that fish smell? It's my new cologne --Fruit de Mer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Very -erm- catching...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See? It's working already.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would work on a cat...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not my cat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you want me to send you my dead mouse to try on your cat? It
>>>>>> hasn't been dead for more than a day... yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Save the postage. Soonish I will probably have mice in the house
>>>>> and she can catch a fresh one.
>>>>
>>>> So she's good for something after all. When she's awake.
>>>>
>>> She's been practicing with the toy mouse. At 2 AM.
>>
>> The squeaky kind?
>>
> 
> The squeaky things are dog toys. Cat's no like noise.

I've known of cats that very much like to make noise - loud, 
penetrating, undulating noise - in the middle of the night when decent 
people are trying to sleep.

BeH