Re: The price of oil

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> On 13.10.2022 14.03, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>> 
>>> On 12.10.2022 13.34, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11.10.2022 22.38, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10.10.2022 15.41, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 08.10.2022 16.30, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I knew that. There is project at StatCan to look into
>>>>>>>>>>>> creating some sort of 'people registry' like the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Scandahoovian countries have. It will probably never get
>>>>>>>>>>>> off the ground mostly due to the bullshit levels of
>>>>>>>>>>>> bureaucracy that you have to go through to do anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> here. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are some legitimate privacy issues - including that
>>>>>>>>>>> this unique identifier is used in all kinds of context;
>>>>>>>>>>> health care, taxation and pensions, banks et.c.
>>>>>>>>>>> We have a Data Protection Agency to try and keep private
>>>>>>>>>>> data out of the hands of people who shouldn't have it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Incidentally they recently forbade a school district to use
>>>>>>>>>>> chromebooks because of privacy concerns vis a vis Google...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was actually wondering how they planned on keep the
>>>>>>>>>> information up-to- date. They asked me for a dump from my
>>>>>>>>>> database which is always 2 years behind. Not helpful.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Every citizen will obviously be self-reporting any changes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the problem is they will be expected to do that (and 50%
>>>>>>>> will) but the others won't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's what the fines are for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happens if someone doesn't pay the fine?
>>>>>> The newsmedia here have this uncanny ability to find the one
>>>>>> person who will have decide whether the pay the fine or buy food
>>>>>> for their family.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's easy. Then the relevant gubberment functionary will know
>>>>> where they are (from the newsreport) and go get the missing
>>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>> One down, 500,000 to go...
>>>
>>> It's not actually going to that much of a problem once the system is
>>> implemented. You want a bank-account - need a CPR number. Want a job
>>> - need a bank account (likewise for any monetary assistance from
>>> public coffers or tax refunds). Want a passport, medical assistance
>>> of any kind, borrow from a public library, pay taxes, enroll in
>>> education facility - need a CPR number.
>> 
>> We have a social insurance number that you need to open a bank
>> account or get a job. It relates to income tax stuff, anything you
>> would require a tax form for (income, whether employment or public
>> money, investments, tuition). But you don't need it for the other
>> stuff like passports etc. 
>> 
>> I used to follow a tax froup on usenet years ago. I helped out filing
>> tax returns  for low-income seniors at the time. An accountant used
>> to post all these hilarilous stories from the time he worked at the
>> Revenue Agency. He said that people could cheat the system by filing
>> their taxes without the SIN number and they would be issued a new
>> one.  When a record linkage project started up at work, one of the
>> methodologists was blown away that someone in the tax database had 15
>> SIN numbers. there's a saying that nothing is fool-proof because
>> fools are often ingenious. 
> 
> How could that even work. Was all the SIN-numbers active/valid at the 
> same time - possible prescription drug palooza - or did they have to 
> figure out what their number is after each tax-return?
> Also why didn't the tax-people just look up the correct SIN instead of
> handing out new ones all over the place?

That's an excellent question. One for which I have no answer. 
When they do security screenings on people, they use name, dob and 
address. There's no reason why CRA can't do the same and reverse-
engineer a SIN number. Lazy government workers...
> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What a coincidence! I'm a secret agent too!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I Don't believe you - so you don't have to kill me now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And that fish smell? It's my new cologne --Fruit de Mer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Very -erm- catching...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> See? It's working already.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would work on a cat...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not my cat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you want me to send you my dead mouse to try on your cat? It
>>>>>>> hasn't been dead for more than a day... yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Save the postage. Soonish I will probably have mice in the house
>>>>>> and she can catch a fresh one.
>>>>>
>>>>> So she's good for something after all. When she's awake.
>>>>>
>>>> She's been practicing with the toy mouse. At 2 AM.
>>>
>>> The squeaky kind?
>>>
>> 
>> The squeaky things are dog toys. Cat's no like noise.
> 
> I've known of cats that very much like to make noise - loud, 
> penetrating, undulating noise - in the middle of the night when decent
> people are trying to sleep.
> 

Light sleeper, huh?
I think my cat is not adverse to noises that she creates herself.
She will leave the room if the tv is on too loud or someone 
sneezes/coughs or if I am talking on the phone. She really hates the 
Zoom conferences.