Re: The price of oil

On 14.10.2022 13.46, Merlyne wrote:
> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> 
>> On 13.10.2022 14.03, Merlyne wrote:
>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On 12.10.2022 13.34, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11.10.2022 22.38, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10.10.2022 15.41, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 08.10.2022 16.30, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I knew that. There is project at StatCan to look into
>>>>>>>>>>>>> creating some sort of 'people registry' like the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scandahoovian countries have. It will probably never get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the ground mostly due to the bullshit levels of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bureaucracy that you have to go through to do anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are some legitimate privacy issues - including that
>>>>>>>>>>>> this unique identifier is used in all kinds of context;
>>>>>>>>>>>> health care, taxation and pensions, banks et.c.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a Data Protection Agency to try and keep private
>>>>>>>>>>>> data out of the hands of people who shouldn't have it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Incidentally they recently forbade a school district to use
>>>>>>>>>>>> chromebooks because of privacy concerns vis a vis Google...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was actually wondering how they planned on keep the
>>>>>>>>>>> information up-to- date. They asked me for a dump from my
>>>>>>>>>>> database which is always 2 years behind. Not helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Every citizen will obviously be self-reporting any changes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But the problem is they will be expected to do that (and 50%
>>>>>>>>> will) but the others won't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's what the fines are for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What happens if someone doesn't pay the fine?
>>>>>>> The newsmedia here have this uncanny ability to find the one
>>>>>>> person who will have decide whether the pay the fine or buy food
>>>>>>> for their family.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's easy. Then the relevant gubberment functionary will know
>>>>>> where they are (from the newsreport) and go get the missing
>>>>>> information.
>>>>>
>>>>> One down, 500,000 to go...
>>>>
>>>> It's not actually going to that much of a problem once the system is
>>>> implemented. You want a bank-account - need a CPR number. Want a job
>>>> - need a bank account (likewise for any monetary assistance from
>>>> public coffers or tax refunds). Want a passport, medical assistance
>>>> of any kind, borrow from a public library, pay taxes, enroll in
>>>> education facility - need a CPR number.
>>>
>>> We have a social insurance number that you need to open a bank
>>> account or get a job. It relates to income tax stuff, anything you
>>> would require a tax form for (income, whether employment or public
>>> money, investments, tuition). But you don't need it for the other
>>> stuff like passports etc.
>>>
>>> I used to follow a tax froup on usenet years ago. I helped out filing
>>> tax returns  for low-income seniors at the time. An accountant used
>>> to post all these hilarilous stories from the time he worked at the
>>> Revenue Agency. He said that people could cheat the system by filing
>>> their taxes without the SIN number and they would be issued a new
>>> one.  When a record linkage project started up at work, one of the
>>> methodologists was blown away that someone in the tax database had 15
>>> SIN numbers. there's a saying that nothing is fool-proof because
>>> fools are often ingenious.
>>
>> How could that even work. Was all the SIN-numbers active/valid at the
>> same time - possible prescription drug palooza - or did they have to
>> figure out what their number is after each tax-return?
>> Also why didn't the tax-people just look up the correct SIN instead of
>> handing out new ones all over the place?
> 
> That's an excellent question. One for which I have no answer.
> When they do security screenings on people, they use name, dob and
> address. There's no reason why CRA can't do the same and reverse-
> engineer a SIN number. Lazy government workers...
>>
>> [---]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What a coincidence! I'm a secret agent too!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I Don't believe you - so you don't have to kill me now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that fish smell? It's my new cologne --Fruit de Mer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Very -erm- catching...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See? It's working already.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would work on a cat...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not my cat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you want me to send you my dead mouse to try on your cat? It
>>>>>>>> hasn't been dead for more than a day... yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Save the postage. Soonish I will probably have mice in the house
>>>>>>> and she can catch a fresh one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So she's good for something after all. When she's awake.
>>>>>>
>>>>> She's been practicing with the toy mouse. At 2 AM.
>>>>
>>>> The squeaky kind?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The squeaky things are dog toys. Cat's no like noise.
>>
>> I've known of cats that very much like to make noise - loud,
>> penetrating, undulating noise - in the middle of the night when decent
>> people are trying to sleep.
>>
> 
> Light sleeper, huh?

Sounds that mostly allude to someone or something being brutally 
murdered do tend to wake me up, yes...

> I think my cat is not adverse to noises that she creates herself.
> She will leave the room if the tv is on too loud or someone
> sneezes/coughs or if I am talking on the phone. She really hates the
> Zoom conferences.

So she wants to hear herself and only herself. I've known people like that.
Also I've never participated in a Zoom conference. After my time, I guess.

BeH