Re: The price of oil

BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> On 14.10.2022 13.46, Merlyne wrote:
>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>> 
>>> On 13.10.2022 14.03, Merlyne wrote:
>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12.10.2022 13.34, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11.10.2022 22.38, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10.10.2022 15.41, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 08.10.2022 16.30, Merlyne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> BeH <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I knew that. There is project at StatCan to look into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> creating some sort of 'people registry' like the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scandahoovian countries have. It will probably never get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off the ground mostly due to the bullshit levels of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bureaucracy that you have to go through to do anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are some legitimate privacy issues - including that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this unique identifier is used in all kinds of context;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> health care, taxation and pensions, banks et.c.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a Data Protection Agency to try and keep private
>>>>>>>>>>>>> data out of the hands of people who shouldn't have it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Incidentally they recently forbade a school district to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use chromebooks because of privacy concerns vis a vis
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was actually wondering how they planned on keep the
>>>>>>>>>>>> information up-to- date. They asked me for a dump from my
>>>>>>>>>>>> database which is always 2 years behind. Not helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Every citizen will obviously be self-reporting any changes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But the problem is they will be expected to do that (and 50%
>>>>>>>>>> will) but the others won't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's what the fines are for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What happens if someone doesn't pay the fine?
>>>>>>>> The newsmedia here have this uncanny ability to find the one
>>>>>>>> person who will have decide whether the pay the fine or buy
>>>>>>>> food for their family.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's easy. Then the relevant gubberment functionary will know
>>>>>>> where they are (from the newsreport) and go get the missing
>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One down, 500,000 to go...
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not actually going to that much of a problem once the system
>>>>> is implemented. You want a bank-account - need a CPR number. Want
>>>>> a job - need a bank account (likewise for any monetary assistance
>>>>> from public coffers or tax refunds). Want a passport, medical
>>>>> assistance of any kind, borrow from a public library, pay taxes,
>>>>> enroll in education facility - need a CPR number.
>>>>
>>>> We have a social insurance number that you need to open a bank
>>>> account or get a job. It relates to income tax stuff, anything you
>>>> would require a tax form for (income, whether employment or public
>>>> money, investments, tuition). But you don't need it for the other
>>>> stuff like passports etc.
>>>>
>>>> I used to follow a tax froup on usenet years ago. I helped out
>>>> filing tax returns  for low-income seniors at the time. An
>>>> accountant used to post all these hilarilous stories from the time
>>>> he worked at the Revenue Agency. He said that people could cheat
>>>> the system by filing their taxes without the SIN number and they
>>>> would be issued a new one.  When a record linkage project started
>>>> up at work, one of the methodologists was blown away that someone
>>>> in the tax database had 15 SIN numbers. there's a saying that
>>>> nothing is fool-proof because fools are often ingenious.
>>>
>>> How could that even work. Was all the SIN-numbers active/valid at
>>> the same time - possible prescription drug palooza - or did they
>>> have to figure out what their number is after each tax-return?
>>> Also why didn't the tax-people just look up the correct SIN instead
>>> of handing out new ones all over the place?
>> 
>> That's an excellent question. One for which I have no answer.
>> When they do security screenings on people, they use name, dob and
>> address. There's no reason why CRA can't do the same and reverse-
>> engineer a SIN number. Lazy government workers...
>>>
>>> [---]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What a coincidence! I'm a secret agent too!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I Don't believe you - so you don't have to kill me now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that fish smell? It's my new cologne --Fruit de Mer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very -erm- catching...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> See? It's working already.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It would work on a cat...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not my cat.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you want me to send you my dead mouse to try on your cat?
>>>>>>>>> It hasn't been dead for more than a day... yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Save the postage. Soonish I will probably have mice in the
>>>>>>>> house and she can catch a fresh one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So she's good for something after all. When she's awake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's been practicing with the toy mouse. At 2 AM.
>>>>>
>>>>> The squeaky kind?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The squeaky things are dog toys. Cat's no like noise.
>>>
>>> I've known of cats that very much like to make noise - loud,
>>> penetrating, undulating noise - in the middle of the night when
>>> decent people are trying to sleep.
>>>
>> 
>> Light sleeper, huh?
> 
> Sounds that mostly allude to someone or something being brutally 
> murdered do tend to wake me up, yes...
> 
>> I think my cat is not adverse to noises that she creates herself.
>> She will leave the room if the tv is on too loud or someone
>> sneezes/coughs or if I am talking on the phone. She really hates the
>> Zoom conferences.
> 
> So she wants to hear herself and only herself. I've known people like
> that. Also I've never participated in a Zoom conference. After my
> time, I guess. 
> 

*adds have Zoom conference with BeH to bucket list before 'get TikTok 
account'*

I don't want you to die a virgin.

We use MS Teams at work.  
It has some advantages over in person meetings such as if you have your 
camera off and the meeting is boring, you can play Candy Crush or 
pretend that your internet connection dropped. When we were 100% 
virtual, the director would ask to get invited to team meeting randomly 
just to stay in touch with people. Like the rank and file want to hang 
out with upper management. *eye roll* I have 2 programmers who report to 
me who would never put their camera on at meetings. I'm cool with that. 
The director called me after a meeting and asked how I knew they were 
working. Seriously?
The benefit of not having your camera on at meetings is that no one can 
see you rolling your eyes when they say something stupid or blather away 
off topic for an extended period of time. In the before-time, I would 
doodle in my notebook or write 'OMG STFU' or something like that which 
would often make the person sitting beside me burst out laughing. MYOB.