Re: Stopping the boats

On 14/06/2024 19:05, Sn!pe wrote:
> Ben Newsam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sn!pe wrote, though the Organization header says "Sn!peCo World Wide
>> Wading Birds":
>>
>>> Ben Newsam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sn!pe wrote, though the Organization header says "Sn!peCo World Wide
>>>> Wading Birds":
>>>>
>>>>> Kerr-Mudd, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> Exactly.  8% more people voted to leave than to stay,
>>>>>>> however much the remainder might hate that fact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've erroneously doubled the figure.
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Not so, I stand by my figure.  Check your percentage arithmetic.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, let's deconstruct this a bit. The result of the referendum was
>>>> 51.89% for Leave, 48.11% for Remain, which gives an official margin of
>>>> 3.78%, ie less than 4%, and a figure that most would agree is correct.
>>>> What you have done is somewhat disingenuous, in that you have done a
>>>> further calculation and taken that 3.78 as a percentage of 48.11,
>>>> giving 7.85 that you have rounded up to 8. A percentage of a
>>>> percentage is not a valid way of interpreting the numbers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In what way is my statement not correct and factual?
>>
>> Results of elections are never reported in the terms you quote, except
>> by people trying to magnify the numbers. I don't know why you would
>> want to do that, except perhaps because you feel guilty about 4% not
>> being quite decisive enough, or maybe you feel guilty about the number
>> of gullible people who believed all the Leave lies.
>>
>
> I'm surprised at you, Ben, you've silently snipped my example.
> Here it is again, please explain why it's wrong:
>
> ----
> In what way is my statement not correct and factual?
>
> £1.08p is 8% more that £1.00p
> £0.52p is 8% more than £0.48p (within rounding error)
>
> 8% more people voted to leave than to stay,
> however much the remainder might hate that fact.
> ----
>
> This ignores all the people who couldn't drag their arses down
> to the polling stations, obvs., but of course, they don't count.
>
The actual percentages in the Brexit vote are irrelevant. Before we all 
went and marked our preferences, we were very clearly told that is there 
was one more vote for one action over the other,that is what would 
happen. As it happened, the difference was 1,269,501 votes.

In all, there were 33,551,983 votes cast, out of 46,501,241 eligible 
voters. 26,033 ballot papers were rejected.

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Tciao for Now!

John.